Thursday, October 19, 2006

Jayhan-Avery Smackdown?

Rather than link to a post over at WingTV, I am presenting an entire post by Victor Thorn about some trouble in Denial Land. (Some typos and misspellings corrected).

Phil "Commander Pod" Jayhan has been officially cited as the number one laughingstock in the 9-11 movement. He has also become known as the biggest mooch and beggar in this movement. Lastly, he's also exhibited quite a bit of kiss *ss fakery, like how he publicly embraces Alex Jones, and then in the next breath bashes him viciously on his little Internet forum (Phil Jayhan Attacks Alex Jones).

But who would have known how extremely JEALOUS the pod-man was? Well, in all honesty, we were quite aware of it because one time before Phil Jayhan made an appearance on WING TV, he called us about half an hour before the show and wanted to know if he could slam Dave von Kleist for (supposedly) stealing all his research on the "pod" and then not rewarding him financially. True to his nature, though, Jayhan chickened-out, and by air-time he had his tail hidden squarely between his legs.

Within this past few days, the green-eyed monster has reared its ugly head once again, for now Jayhan is belly-aching about Dylan Avery not supporting him properly. It's strange, but for some reason Commander Pod feels that the entire world owes him a living. I mean, it's bad enough that the suckers on his forum are still gullible enough to send him money, but why would anyone feel obligated to keep fueling Phil Jayhan's welfare train? Von Kleist and Avery certainly aren't responsible to feed him, nor is anyone else.

Hey Jayhan, grow up and get a job, ya bum, and quit whining to the world. Nobody owes you a damn thing!

Phil Jayhan bashes Dylan Avery - October 15, 2006 (all illiterate misspellings intact)

Personally, I have stopped promoting Loose change and weaned myself to promoting 911 Mysteries which is much better made and had a higher production value.

I live off of sales, so dylan had me by the short hairs for a while, especially since very disagreement ended with him threatening to not sell me any copies of it whatsoever. [Selah] Think about that!

We did most of his research and he even lived off of donations here from letsroll members! And then what does he do? He opens his own forums, without ever telling me, and siphons off all my best moderators and Admins and takes them unto himself! Talk about a back stabber! I would never imagine trying to siphon of mods and Admins from somone who helped me so much! Yet Dylan has no issues with this and it fits with his ultra selfish style and way of doing thngs! Dylans second nature is to stab those who helped him in the back, and damn the torpedos...

He thinks he is on top of the world, and probably is, for a season! But things have a way of leveling out, and someday Dylan will be broke and meandering, looking for people to help him again, yet, they will be al gone, for good, as he uses people, and then throws them away!

If anyone will remember, his mom published a video preview of his 2nd edition, which left out the pod and the missile. And when I said squat about it, he was quick to say that was a preview, and that the pod and the missile would be in his 2nd movie! How many here remember his false lying words to us? And then his 2nd edition comes out, without this footage, and lo and behild, Dylan the liar makes up some lame excuse why he left it out!

Everytime I bring anything up to this guy on the phone, he threatened to not sell me any DVD's and cut me off from any of the cashflow! Even though he made many promises here, and threads, saying "Promote Loose Change" and I will make donations to this forum.

Those donations never came, He lied. All I got was a few lousy cases of his DVD's and nothing but threats from him not to speak evil of him or else he would cut me off from ALL sales!

He lied to me, He lied to his Mods. He lied to his Admins. He lies to everyone who can help him out, and then after the help given, he treats THEM like sh*t as well!

Screw Dylan and Screw Loose Change! And all that that implies....He is nothing but a lying piece of sh*t!

cheers-
phil

And we aren't even worthy of a f*cking link on his website while the stupid ass, piece of sh*t Killtown gets all the traffic! Well, f*ck Dylan and f*ck Killtown and his lying no plane Bullsh*t of which Loose Change is NOW the HOME OF!!!!!

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Phil Jayhan Bashes Dylan Avery - October 15, 2006 (all illiterate misspellings intact)

Dylan is drunk with power and money, and doesn't give a crap about anything or anyone but himself! He has forgetten that many people have given up their lives as they knew them to work 911 truth, yet he doesn't give a crap because he has all the money, and comforts, and bills paid through his 1.5 million dollar contract to make his final cut of this movie!

While people like me struggle to make ends meet and pay neccessities, like the phone and electric bills. All of Dylans promises to help me and this forum have come to nought. He has provided a few cases of DVD's free of charge, and 115 dollars in cash donations (made after John Stadtmillers Debut of his movie at the Alamo Steak House)

Dylan has, for the most part, broken every single promise he made to me and this forum. He has not given nearly as much as was given, and when success was granted him, he cut us loose, and abandoned us, even going to the extreme of banning me from being able to post on his forums.

And all that that implies....

cheers-
phil jayhan

Dylan forgets those who help him and then screws them over. This is his habit. He has never seen a bridge which he doesn't burn and never seen a bridge which he thinks is beneath him, and all that that implies....


Although Thorn dismisses any notion that Avery owes Jayhan anything, IIRC, Jayhan financed the original version of Loose Change and was even credited as a co-producer on that release.

33 Comments:

At 19 October, 2006 16:56, Blogger SFC B said...

Bollyn, Loose Change Forums, now Jayhan.

Eating. Their. Own.

 
At 19 October, 2006 17:23, Blogger roger_sq said...

Jayhan forgot to mention that Dylan sucks cock just for fun now that he doesn't need the money. And all that that implies.

 
At 19 October, 2006 17:35, Blogger Nyke said...

Jayhan fights Avery, who wins?

Everyone else.

 
At 19 October, 2006 17:36, Blogger Avery Dylan said...

Like hey man, maybe Jayhan is one of the Hardly boys!

I mean, isn't Jayhan a Joooooooo?

Loose Change, man I mean it's a closed cult now.

Louder than Words! more than one way to direct a google search!

 
At 19 October, 2006 17:44, Blogger James B. said...

Screw Dylan and Screw Loose Change!

Hey, isn't he making some sort of trademark violation with that comment? ;-)

 
At 19 October, 2006 18:01, Blogger Rowe_Korey said...

Dylan,

Am I next?

What do you mean a verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's printed on?

 
At 19 October, 2006 19:41, Blogger Bubbers said...

Not that anything else is needed to discredit these assholes, but you gotta love all of the infighting going on here. It's really the only thing that has been steadily picking up momentum for them. Makes all of us normal people look even more normal.

 
At 19 October, 2006 19:46, Blogger Triterope said...

It's obvious what this is really about. Phil Jayhan and Victor Thorn apparently thought they were going to get rich off writing 9/11 Denial books, and now they're pissed off that Dylan Avery has beaten them to it. (SEE ALSO: Hufschmid, Eric.)

 
At 19 October, 2006 19:50, Blogger Bubbers said...

By the way, has anyone seen doherty lately? He must have gotten sick of being asked to show evidence to back up all of his claims.

 
At 19 October, 2006 21:20, Blogger Sword of Truth said...

He's in hiding because he thinks we're out to kill him.

http://911debunkingthedebunkers.blogspot.com/2006/10/are-debunkers-potential-murderers.html

 
At 19 October, 2006 22:04, Blogger Rayzor said...

but I coulda sworn in the other thread he said he could break us in half.

 
At 19 October, 2006 22:18, Blogger Jacob said...

Probably trolling some other site for a while...

 
At 19 October, 2006 22:37, Blogger Pat said...

Probably gone off to the new Loose Change forum.

 
At 19 October, 2006 22:57, Blogger tym said...

Breaking news stories of the day:

1) Sky is blue

2) 9/11 truth movement "icons" only care about fame and money

3) Their credibility is extremely suspect

 
At 20 October, 2006 03:39, Blogger Homer Simpson said...

Dedicated to the Victims of 9/11

 
At 20 October, 2006 06:47, Blogger CHF said...

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At 20 October, 2006 06:47, Blogger CHF said...

This "movement" is falling apart.

Outright denial ("84% agree with us!"), desperation and now a surge of infighting.

I wish there was a way to send them weapons and ammo...

 
At 20 October, 2006 07:25, Blogger JPSlovjanski said...

I LOVE it any time I see people with ridiculous beliefs accusing others of having even more insane beliefs.

Believing in: Remote control drones replacing the real planes, hijackers still alive, Pentagon hit by a missile, thermate brought down the buildings, etc.. NO PROBLEM!!!

Then one poor bastard says there was a "pod" and suddenly they descend upon him like a pack of wild dogs.

 
At 20 October, 2006 07:26, Blogger JPSlovjanski said...

I LOVE it any time I see people with ridiculous beliefs accusing others of having even more insane beliefs.

Believing in: Remote control drones replacing the real planes, hijackers still alive, Pentagon hit by a missile, thermate brought down the buildings, etc.. NO PROBLEM!!!

Then one poor bastard says there was a "pod" and suddenly they descend upon him like a pack of wild dogs.

It reminds me of someone going on and on about being abducted by aliens, and then one guy butts in and says, "I don't know about aliens, but I saw a ghost once!"

"YOU BELIEVE IN GHOSTS?! ARE YOU SOME KIND OF NUTCASE?!"

Same deal with the pods and remote drones.

 
At 20 October, 2006 07:29, Blogger Lying_Dylan said...

Very well put!

 
At 20 October, 2006 07:34, Blogger Lying_Dylan said...

I have already started signing my checks "pdoherty"

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HHHHAAAAAA AAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
MMMMMWWWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 
At 20 October, 2006 07:35, Blogger Nathan Mcginty said...

what was that 1.5 million thing? was that for real?

 
At 20 October, 2006 08:03, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is worse than the Beatles break-up and almost as bad as McCartney's current divorce.

 
At 20 October, 2006 10:09, Blogger CHF said...

Everytime I bring anything up to this guy on the phone, he threatened to not sell me any DVD's and cut me off from any of the cashflow!

Bingo!

Thi$ i$ all the twoof ha$ ever been about for the$e fucking idiot$.

Nothing more.

 
At 20 October, 2006 11:12, Blogger pdoherty76 said...

aw have u all missed me. fortunately having a life means i cant be here for my pets all the time

 
At 20 October, 2006 11:24, Blogger Lying_Dylan said...

aw have u all missed me. fortunately having a life means i cant be here for my pets all the time

Gee I dont blame you, your blog gets ENORMOUS traffic

 
At 20 October, 2006 11:54, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

Most organizations and groups have infighting. The difference here, is there are no mature adults to let it go...to just let it settle. This exchange between the two reminds me of 20 years ago when I was in highschool. It is just silliness.

TAM

 
At 20 October, 2006 11:54, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

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At 20 October, 2006 12:37, Blogger Dog Town said...

It's obvious what this is really about. Phil Jayhan and Victor Thorn apparently thought they were going to get rich off writing 9/11 Denial books, and now they're pissed off that Dylan Avery has beaten them to it. (SEE ALSO: Hufschmid, Eric.)

The rest went after adultsbooks, Do Over found the target audience first,Children!

 
At 20 October, 2006 13:40, Blogger Triterope said...

Dogtown, good point.

 
At 20 October, 2006 15:20, Blogger Bubbers said...

Of course we missed you doherty. All of the other truthers get scared away by facts and never come back. You, on the other hand, keep coming back for more even though you never put together a logical argument.Keeps it interesting. And your blog doesn't prove anything. All it is is you babbling about how we're all jealous of Dylan and Jones. And about how we're all potential murderers, even though you condone Islamic extremism(or don't believe in terrorists, I don't know which is worse), and shit all over the graves of the people we lost on 9/11. Insulting to anybody who's ever lost a family member, just how ignorant and disrespectful you and all of the truthers are to the victims and their families.

 
At 21 October, 2006 11:21, Blogger Stevew said...

Seems he has a new forum but nobody came
http://oddities911.forumup.com/

 
At 23 October, 2006 00:20, Blogger lawchick said...

Well, okay, so nobody came.

But they're probably working really really hard on getting raging clues at least.

 

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