Another Clown Joins the Circus
Joining the ranks of such distinguished public figures as Charlie Sheen and Ed Asner, Barbara Streisand's husband has now outted himself as a truther. I am not convinced yet, I am holding out for Woody Harrelson...
Actor James Brolin, the husband of Barbara Streisand, has today become the latest celebrity figure to publicly question the official story behind 9/11, after he encouraged viewers of a top rated ABC talk show to check out a 9/11 truth website.
Brolin appeared as a guest on The View Wednesday morning and according to e-mails we have been receiving in numbers, towards the end of the show the actor questioned 9/11 and urged the audience to check out the website 911weknow.com,
which is a website that purports to expose how the twin towers and Building 7, which wasn't hit by a plane, were brought down via controlled demolition.
posted by James B. @ 2:33 PM
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I anxiously await Barbara Streisand's response.
Seriously. It ought to be good.
Please keep in mind what I've been saying for months. The conspiracy fantasies are what most Bush-hating leftists WANT to say. The nonsense promoted by the liars is just so damn idiotic that most lefties are afraid of looking like even bigger horse's asses than they already do.
OJ speaking about the Pentagon hole:
"If the Plane doesn't fit...you must acquit!"
The nonsense promoted by the liars is just so damn idiotic that most lefties are afraid of looking like even bigger horse's asses than they already do.
Plus the small problem of associating yourself with Holocaust deniers and worldwide Zionist conspiracy types.
And if you're a Bush-hating leftist in the entertainment field, you also risk pissing off a lot of Manhattan-based entertainment execs who know all too well what happened that day, and probably knew someone who perished.
Which is why I'm really interested in Babs' reaction. Does she remain silent on this important declaration, when she has a long history of loudly publicizing every political opinion she ever forms? Will she join the 9-11 denial lunacy, and alienate her fans and friends? Does she pull a Denise Richards and kick James Brolin's wacko ass out the door? Inquiring minds want to know.
That's the 9-11 Mysteries site. I note that their forum has a whopping 14 members.
Pomeroo, I agree there is a substantial portion of the Left that would love to buy into the woo, but know that it would just be giving their enemies on the Right more ammunition about what a bunch of nuts they are. I thought the election would pretty much kill this off, but the pledge by Nancy Pelosi not to impeach President Bush has gotten them restless.
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James or Pat, if you find out some more, please let us know. People like Brolin and Sheen have had it pretty good in America, yet they have a strange way of showing their gratitude.
Sheen definitely needs to be deported to Iran, he can see how receptive Muslims are to perverted drug addicts. I'd like to hear more about Brolin before I condemn him to scumbag status.
Babs was pretty tight with the Clintons, I wonder what Bill will say if he learns Babs' hubby is a America-hating terrorist apologist.
Plus the small problem of associating yourself with Holocaust deniers and worldwide Zionist conspiracy types.
So now your going to lump these folks into that category? Yeah I guess these folks, oops sorry CLOWNS, are Tin-Hatter's too eh?
Rep. Curt Weldon – Ten-term Republican Congressman from Pennsylvania. House Armed Services Committee Vice Chairman. Homeland Security Committee Vice Chairman.
Senator Max Cleland – Former member of the 9/11 Commission, resigned December 2003. Currently serves on the board of directors of the Export-Import Bank of the United States. U.S. Senator from Georgia 1996-2002. Administrator of U.S. Veterans Administration 1977-1981. Awarded Silver Star and Bronze Star for U.S. Army bravery in Viet Nam. Triple amputee from war injuries.
Louis Freeh – Director of FBI, 1993-2001. Former U.S. District Court Judge for Southern District of New York, appointed by President George H.W. Bush. Former Deputy United States Attorney in New York. Former FBI agent. Former officer in United States Army.
Edward L. Peck – Deputy Director of the White House Task Force on Terrorism under Ronald Reagan. Former Deputy Coordinator, Covert Intelligence Programs at the State Department. U.S. Ambassador and Chief of Mission to Iraq (1977-80). 32-year veteran of the Foreign Service.
Paul Craig Roberts, PhD – Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Treasury under Ronald Reagan. "Father of Reaganomics." Former Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal. Currently Chairman of the Institute for Political Economy and Research Fellow at the Independent Institute.
Catherine Austin Fitts – Assistant Secretary of Housing under George H.W. Bush. Former Managing Director of Wall Street investment bank, Dillon, Read & Co.
orton Goulder – Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Warning under Presidents Nixon, Ford, and Carter (1973-77). Founder of Sanders Associates.
Fred Burks – Former State Department Interpreter for Presidents George W. Bush and Bill Clinton, Vice Presidents Dick Cheney and Al Gore, Secretaries of State Colin Powell and Madeleine Albright. 18-year State Department career.
eneral Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army (ret) – Commanding General of Army Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM), 1981 - 1984. Also commanded U.S. Army’s Intelligence Center. Former head of Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence. 32-year Army career.
ol. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Director of Advanced Space Programs Development under Presidents Ford and Carter. Air Force fighter pilot, over 100 combat missions. PhD in Aeronautics, Nuclear Engineering.
Col. George Nelson, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former U.S. Air Force aircraft accident investigator and airplane parts authority. 34-year Air Force career.
Col. Ronald D. Ray, U.S. Marine Corps (ret) – Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense during Reagan Administration. Highly decorated Vietnam veteran (two Silver Stars, a Bronze Star and a Purple Heart). Appointed by President George H.W. Bush to serve on American Battle Monuments Commission. From 1990 to 1994, served as Military Historian and Deputy Director of Field Operations for U.S. Marine Corps Historical Center, Washington, D.C.
Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Military Intelligence Officer, Defense Intelligence Agency. Member of Able Danger effort to target Al Qaeda’s global structure. Former Chief of the Army’s HUMINT [Human Intelligence] program. Awarded the Bronze Star for bravery for the first of his two combat tours to Afghanistan. 23-year military intelligence career.
Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former Political-Military Affairs Officer in the Office of the Secretary of Defense. Staff Member, Office of Director of the National Security Agency. 20-year Air Force veteran.
Major Scott Ritter, U.S. Marine Corps – Former Marine Corps Intelligence Officer and Chief Weapons Inspector for the United Nations Special Commission in Iraq 1991-1998.
Major Douglas Rokke, PhD, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Director U.S. Army Depleted Uranium Project.
Capt. Russ Wittenberg, U.S. Air Force – Former Air Force fighter pilot, over 100 combat missions. Commercial pilot for Pan Am and United Airlines for 35 years. Had previously flown the actual two United airplanes that were hijacked on 9/11.
Barbara Honegger – Senior Military Affairs Journalist at the Naval Postgraduate School (1995 - present). White House Policy Analyst and Special Assistant to the Assistant to President Ronald Reagan (1981-83).
Capt. Gregory M. Zeigler, PhD, U.S. Army – Former U.S. Army Intelligence Officer
Raymond L. McGovern – Former Chairman, National Intelligence Estimates, CIA. Responsible for President’s Daily Brief (PDB) for Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. 27-year CIA veteran. Former U.S. Army Intelligence Officer.
William Christison – Former National Intelligence Officer and Director of the CIA's Office of Regional and Political Analysis. 29-year CIA veteran.
Melvin A. Goodman – Senior Analyst, Bureau of Intelligence and Research, State Department, 1974-1976. Former Division Chief and Senior Analyst, Office of Soviet Affairs, CIA,1976 - 1986. Professor of International Security, National War College 1986-2004. Currently Senior Fellow, Center for International Policy and Adjunct Professor of International Relations, Johns Hopkins University. Author or co-author of five books on international relations.
Robert Baer – Former CIA Case Officer, Specialist in Middle East, Directorate of Operations. Awarded Career Intelligence Medal. 21-year CIA veteran. Author of two nonfiction books about CIA operations, See No Evil and Sleeping with the Devil
Sibel D. Edmonds – Former Language Translation Specialist, FBI. Performed translations for counterterrorism, counterintelligence operations. 9/11 Commission Witness.
Bogdan Dzakovic – 14-year Counterterrorism expert, Security Division of Federal Aviation Administration (FAA). Team Leader of FAA's Red (Terrorism) Team. Former Team Leader in Federal Air Marshal program. Former Coast Guard officer. Witness for 9/11 Commission.
Letter to Congress on 9/11 Commission Report
"We the undersigned wish to bring to the attention of the Congress and the people of the United States what we believe are serious shortcomings in the [9/11 Commission] report and its recommendations.
Omission is one of the major flaws in the Commission’s report. We are aware of significant issues and cases that were duly reported to the commission by those of us with direct knowledge, but somehow escaped attention.
The omission of such serious and applicable issues and information by itself renders the report flawed, and casts doubt on the validity of many of its recommendations."
http://www.pogo.org/m/hsp/...
Petition signed by 25 military, intelligence, and security veterans below:
John M. Cole – Former Intelligence Operations Specialist, Counterintelligence Division, FBI. In charge of FBI’s foreign intelligence investigations covering India, Pakistan and Afghanistan.18-year FBI career.
David "Mark" Conrad – Retired Agent in Charge, U.S. Customs. Responsible for internal integrity and security for areas encompassing nine states and two foreign locations. Former Federal Sky Marshall. 27-years in U.S. Customs. Currently Professor of Criminal Justice at Troy University.
Edward J. Costello, Jr. – Former Special Agent, Counterterrorism, FBI. Former Judge, Los Angeles, CA.
Rosemary N. Dew – Former Supervisory Special Agent, Counterterrorism and Counterintelligence, FBI. Former member President's National Security Telecommunications Advisory Committee (NSTAC) and the Electronic Commerce/Cyber Crime Working Group. 13-year FBI career.
Bogdan Dzakovic – 14-year Counter-terrorism expert, Security Division of Federal Aviation Administration. Witness before the 9/11 Commission. (For more, click here)
Sibel D. Edmonds – Former Language Translation Specialist, performing translations for counterterrorism and
counterintelligence operations, FBI. Witness before the 9/11 Commission. (For more, click here)
Steve Elson – Former Special Agent with the U.S. Navy and the FAA. Specialist in Counterterrorism, Intelligence, and Security. Twenty-two years military experience, primarily in Naval Special Warfare and nine years Federal service with the FAA and DEA. Retired Navy Seal.
David Forbes – Aviation, Logistics and Govt. Security Analysts, BoydForbes, Inc.
Melvin A. Goodman – Senior Analyst at the Bureau of Intelligence and Research, State Department, 1974-1976. Professor of International Security at the National War College 1986-2004. (For more, click here)
Mark Graf – Former Security Supervisor, Planner, and Derivative Classifier, Department of Energy. Former Chairman of the Rocky Flats (DOE) Physical Security Systems Working Group from 1990 through 1995.
Gilbert M. Graham – Retired Special Agent, Counterintelligence, FBI. 24-year FBI career.
Diane Kleiman – Former Special Agent, US Customs. Exposes major cover-ups on her website: http://www.customscoverup.com
Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former Political-Military Affairs Officer in the Office of the Secretary of Defense. Staff Member, Office of Director of the National Security Agency. 20-year Air Force veteran. (For more, click here)
Lynne A. Larkin – Former CIA Operations Officer. Served in several CIA foreign stations and in the CIA's counter-intelligence center helping chair a multi-agency task force and seminars on coordinating intelligence among intelligence and crime prevention agencies.
David MacMichael – Former Senior Estimates Officer with special responsibility for Western Hemisphere Affairs at the CIA's National Intelligence Council. Former Captain, U.S. Marine Corps. 10-year military service.
Raymond L. McGovern – Former Chairman, National Intelligence Estimates, CIA, responsible for preparing the President’ Daily Brief (PDB) for Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. 27-year CIA veteran. Former U.S. Army Intelligence Officer. (For more, click here)
Theodore J. Pahle – Former Senior Intelligence Officer, Defense Intelligence Agency. 37-year intelligence career. HUMINT [Human Intelligence] operations officer with DIA, Office of Naval Intelligence and U.S. Army Intelligence. Middle East and Latin American operations specialist.
Behrooz Sarshar – Retired Language Translation Specialist, performing Farsi translations for counterterrorism and counterintelligence operations dealing with Iran and Afghanistan, FBI.
Brian F. Sullivan – Retired Special Agent, Risk Management Specialist, FAA. Retired Lieutenant Colonel, Military Police.
Commander Larry J. Tortorich, U.S. Navy (ret) – Former Deputy Program Manager for Logistics – Tomahawk Cruise Missiles. 24-year Navy career in the fields of aviation and counterterrorism. Two years as a federal employee with DHS/TSA in the fields of security and counterterrorism.
Jane A. Turner – Retired Special Agent, 24-years in FBI.
John B. Vincent – Retired Special Agent, Counterterrorism, FBI. 27-year FBI career.
Dr. Fred Whitehurst – Retired Supervisory Special Agent / Laboratory Forensic Examiner, FBI. Former U.S. Army Intelligence Officer.
Col. Ann Wright, U.S. Army (ret) – Retired Army officer and Former U.S. Diplomat. 29 years in U.S. Army, U.S. Army Reserves. Member of International law team in Operation Urgent Fury in Grenada. Served in Panama and Somalia. Joined Foreign Service in 1987. Deputy Chief of Mission, U.S. Embassies in Sierra Leone, Micronesia and Afghanistan. Helped reopen US Embassy in Kabul in December, 2001.
Matthew J. Zipoli – Special Response Team (SRT) Officer, DOE. Vice President, Security Police Officer's Association, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
Paul Hellyer – Former Minister of National Defense of Canada. Former Deputy Prime Minister. Former Member of House of Commons.
Andreas von Buelow, PhD – Former State Secretary of the Federal Ministry of Defense of West Germany. Former Minister of Research and Technology. Member of Bundestag (Parliament) 1969-1994.
Michael Meacher – Former Under Secretary for Industry, Under Secretary for Health and Social Security, Minister of Environment, and Member of the House of Commons (UK).
General Leonid Ivashov – Joint Chief of Staff of Russian Armies on 9/11/2001. Chief of Department for General Affairs in Soviet Union’s Ministry of Defense. Chief of Military Cooperation Department at Russian Federation’s Ministry of Defense. Secretary of Council of Defense Ministers of Community of Independant States (CIS).
Mohamed Hassanein Heikal – Former Foreign Minister of Egypt. Adviser to Egyptian Presidents Nasser and Sadat. Renowned Journalist and Editor.
David Shayler – Former Counter-terrorism Officer, MI5 (UK)
Source: http://www.wanttoknow.info/officialsquestion911commissionreport
Or why the BBC documentary asks-
If Osama bin Laden does, in fact, head a vast international terrorist organization with trained operatives in more than 40 countries, as claimed by Bush, why, despite torture of prisoners, has this administration failed to produce hard evidence of it?
Or Why did Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld claim on "Meet the Press" in 2001 that Al Qaeda controlled massive high-tech cave complexes in Afghanistan, when British and U.S. military forces later found no such thing?
And to sum it up:
"There are dangerous and fanatical individuals and groups around the world who have been inspired by extreme Islamist ideas and who will use the techniques of mass terror — the attacks on America and Madrid make this only too clear. But the nightmare vision of a uniquely powerful hidden organization waiting to strike our societies is an illusion. Wherever one looks for this Al Qaeda organization, from the mountains of Afghanistan to the 'sleeper cells' in America, the British and Americans are chasing a phantom enemy."
Source LA Times
Yes, we have seen the list of everybody who supports the crackpot theories. Guess what? They're crackpots.
Yes, we have seen the list of everybody who supports the crackpot theories. Guess what? They're crackpots.
ROFLMAO!
Spoken like a true OS'er!
Louis Freeh – Director of FBI, 1993-2001. Former U.S. District Court Judge for Southern District of New York, appointed by President George H.W. Bush. Former Deputy United States Attorney in New York. Former FBI agent. Former officer in United States Army.
What a bogus list. Louis Freeh is not a truther. For God's sake, he was the head of the FBI when they conducted the investigation that identified the 19 hijackers.
So now your going to lump these folks into that category? Yeah I guess these folks, oops sorry CLOWNS, are Tin-Hatter's too eh?
Yes, as a matter of fact, they are. You see, if you believe in tin-hat stuff, you're a tin-hatter. It's quite simple, really.
First of all, it's hysterical that you cited Bob Bowman as a counter-example of my characterization of "worldwide Zionist conspiracy types", since that's exactly what he is. From Bowman's own campaign website (archived version):
The New World Order got its start with Charlie Wilson (chairman of General Motors and later Secretary of Defense) and Krupp Industries in Hitler's Germany in the 1930s. It got a big push from David Rockefeller in 1960 with the Trilateral Commission, and reached its fruition under George H. W. Bush. It incorporates the IMF, the World Bank, the G-8, and the WTO. It rules the world on behalf of the billionaire industrialists and bankers. It is global capitalism run amok. It manipulates public opinion through its corporate media monopolies.
Sounds pretty "worldwide Zionist conspiracy" to me. I grant you that he doesn't the use Z-word outright, but all the other code words are there. (It's kinda hard to get elected in South Florida when you go around making accusations about Jews.)
Another name on your list, Catherine Austin Fitts, appeared in Aaron Russo's laughable tax-conspiracy movie America: From Freedom to Fascism, in which she argues various "secret worldwide bank" theories.
Paul Hellyer also believes in UFO coverups.
Sibel Edmonds? Don't make me laugh.
David Shayler seems to have bought the complete David Icke package -- shape-shifting lizard aliens, secret Zionist governments, false flag operations, etc.
Most of the rest of the names on your list I don't even recognize. They look like a military version of the Scholars for 9/11 Twoof: a random collection of low-level functionaries with little or no expertise in any area related to 9/11 study. All this proves is that any large group of people will contain a certain number of woowoos.
So, yes, Swing Dangler, I would most certainly lump these people in the same group as holocaust deniers and Zionist New World Order types -- because that's who they side with when they cast their lot with 9-11 conspiracy. Or do we need to go through the whole "American Free Press" thing again?
The lesson here is that a high level of education and/or expertise doesn't make you immune to woowoo conspiracy theories. And having such credentials does not make your woowoo beliefs valid.
I'm sure most of these people, including Bob Bowman, really had the honorable careers they claim here. (Though I imagine a few are being misrepresented, as we saw with the "scholars".)
But when you follow an honorable 32-year career with a series of assertions that the World Trade Center was actually destroyed by holograms so the Illuminati could rule the world, the latter tends to outweigh the former in most people's minds.
Trite
ROFLMAO
He is an Zionist Conspiracy guy, huh. Uhh but wait it doesn't say so here. But I tell you he uses code words so that is why is an anti-zionist! Gees, that is comical. For a minute there I thought I might have to agree with you on something, but alas, I didn't get the decoder ring from the crackerjack box. Shucks.
What does it prove, Trite? There are several people with more political/military/intelligence experience and more importantly INSIGHT into these types of things than any of us on here have, and they question 9/11 and the commission. Ahh yes but feel free to attack that person again.
You want to 'discredit' Fist based upon something that exists and she is/was in a position to know it exists? Can you say a certain savings and loan scandal involving a certain President's relative in Colorado come to mind? Or perhaps the P2-Lodge murder conspiracy in Italy, does that ring a bell? Come on Trite, you can do better than that. Or the Federal Reserve secret meeting that J.P.Morgan's son actually stated was held in secret to keep the public from knowing what they were doing? Or is there something else your referring to?
Paul Hellyer also believes in UFO coverups.
So your stating, Trite, there have been no UFO coverups in order to discredit this guy?
Sorry man, but I'm more inclined to accept their positions than yours.
Oh well, maybe you will get me on the UFO thing or is that what Alex is for? He is the UFO believer in your bunch.
Remember Trite, you said they were the same as holocaust deniers and Zionist conspiracy nutters
Trite Are you aware of what the article you linked to states? Do you accept the Shayler comment and the information below from your link? Or are you selecting bits and pieces to believe? Whose side are you on?
On the other hand, the documented existence of a shadow world of CIA mounted black-ops and coups makes the idea that 9-11 was a ‘false flag’ operation seem within the realms of possibility. American intelligence has a long and bloody history of covert operations, instigating coups and funding opposition against those that challenge their authority.
The fact-free fraud Swing Dangler has unloaded another steaming pile. No, Swingie, not all of the people on your list support your absurd and baseless fantasies.
Some of us read transcripts from MEMRI (Middle East Media Research Institute), digests of news stories, op-ed pieces, and editorials from Middle Eastern newspapers. It's funny, those Islamic scholars and journalists seem pretty sure that al Qaeda exists and Osama bin Laden is its leader. I suppose that they, like the CIA front al Jazeera, are just agents of the Impossibly Vast Conspiracy.
I agree that your research is, to put it delicately, substandard.
Wow, SD, you seem spitting mad today. Did you really need three posts to say all that?
Trite? There are several people with more political/military/intelligence experience and more importantly INSIGHT into these types of things than any of us on here have, and they question 9/11 and the commission.
Did you even read what I said? I already addressed all this. Go read my previous post again. The key phrases are "low-level functionaries with little or no expertise in any area related to 9/11 study" and "having such credentials does not make your woowoo beliefs valid."
These people insist in believing a story that does not stand up to analysis. I'm sure these people have many fine qualities, but their dogged belief in laughable conspiracies is the only quality that is relevant to this blog. So within the scope of this discussion, these people are crackpots, and I will continue to call them crackpots until they recant, or come up with some convincing evidence for what they believe.
SD, this isn't a game of Let's Count Experts Who Believe My Version Of The Story. And even if it were, you would lose, since the overwhelming majority accepts the overwhelming evidence that 9/11 was carried out by hijacked airplanes. And the handful that don't believe this do tend to believe every other wacky theory out there. Which is my point.
Sorry man, but I'm more inclined to accept their positions than yours.
I don't doubt that. You'd be more inclined to accept their arguments than mine if I said two plus two was four, and they said two plus two was eighty-six. Which is basically what's happening here. You're not thinking for yourself. You're BELIEEEEEVING. Danger danger.
So your stating, Trite, there have been no UFO coverups in order to discredit (Hellyer)?
No. I'm saying it's a little a harder to take someone seriously when they're on record as saying the U.S. government is covering up knowledge of UFOs -- yet another claim there is no real evidence of, and is widely held by wackos.
(To be fair, I should have been more specific in my previous comments, and clarified that that is what Hellyer apparently believes.)
You want to 'discredit' Fitts based upon something that exists and she is/was in a position to know it exists?
You mean the ridiculous "the entire US government is controlled by a private European bank" conspiracy theory? That's argued in this film in support of the even more ridiculous "no one really has to pay income tax" arguments? Which are even more tired and defeated than the 9-11 conspiracy theories are, so much so you could be sanctioned for even bringing them up in court? Alongside a bunch of scam artists who sell expensive books full of tax-avoidance arguments that will only get you jail time? That this woman would even appear in this piece of cinematic tripe is sufficient reason not to take her seriously.
Ordinarily, I would ask you to expound upon this for my amusement. But I'm growing tired of you, so you can keep it to yourself.
Trite Are you aware of what the article you linked to states?
Yes. You see, even people with some inclination to believe the 9-11 conspiracy theory think David Shayler is a nutcase. And you cited him as an example of a clear-thinking and respectable individual that shouldn't be lumped with wackos.
Oh well, maybe you will get me on the UFO thing or is that what Alex is for? He is the UFO believer in your bunch.
Alex Jones is one of YOUR bunch, not ours. What are you, drunk?
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What a bogus list. Louis Freeh is not a truther.
Nor is Curt Weldon or Max Clelland. The troofers have to invent supporters because they can find so few real (and sane) ones.
State propaganda is bad for your health, seriously.
Sorry, I didn't need state propoganda to convince me planes piloted by Islamic fanatics flew into the WTC. What is your excuse?
Brolie is an imbecile. Anyone who can stay in the same bed as Barbs (who smells like an old horse) can't be dealing with a full deck anyway.
Consdemo Why are you lying? I've never typed that he was a member of the Truth Movement, yet you lie and say that I said that.
Louis Freeh – Director of FBI, 1993-2001. Former U.S. District Court Judge for Southern District of New York, appointed by President George H.W. Bush. Former Deputy United States Attorney in New York. Former FBI agent. Former officer in United States Army.
* Wall Street Journal 11/17/05: "Even the most junior investigator would immediately know that the name and photo ID of [lead 9/11 hijacker Mohammed] Atta in 2000 is precisely the kind of tactical intelligence the FBI has many times employed to prevent attacks and arrest terrorists. Yet the 9/11 Commission inexplicably concluded that it 'was not historically significant.' This astounding conclusion—in combination with the failure to investigate Able Danger and incorporate it into its findings—raises serious challenges to the commission's credibility and, if the facts prove out, might just render the commission historically insignificant itself. No wonder the 9/11 families were outraged by these revelations and called for a 'new' commission."
Nahh he supports the truth 100% wouldn't you say?
So TRITE you accept that the CIA or some cover op. intel agency could have carried this out, correct? Since the authors of your article accept that. I mean you accept as fact everything else in the article correct? Or are you picking and chosing what to believe?
Wasn't it you guys that said you have to accept what the structural engineers assessment of WTC 1 and 2, if you accept his assessment of WTC 7?
Why are you lying? I've never typed that he was a member of the Truth Movement, yet you lie and say that I said that.
Oh. My. God.
If we were all in a room together having this conversion, this would be the moment where I started slowly backing towards an exit.
Yep, he's really something...."special"....
Just to make one thing clear regarding Louis Freeh, Freeh resigned from the FBI in June, 2001.
Consdemo Why are you lying? I've never typed that he was a member of the Truth Movement, yet you lie and say that I said that.
Louis Freeh – Director of FBI, 1993-2001...
Swing, you really are an imbecile, aren't you? That was James who called you on associating Freeh with the twoofers, not I. I was responding to his post, hence the italics, it shouldn't be that hard to figure out.
In any case, I agree with James's point. Otherwise, what is your list supposed to represent?
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