If Dylan Avery Had Been Around in 1946
Here's an amusing post by Rand Simberg:
Five years after the sinking of the battleships in Pearl Harbor, many still question the official government story of what happened on that fateful day, and who was responsible. Some believe that the Roosevelt administration did it themselves, deliberately, making it look like Japanese religious fanatics were responsible, in order to drag the country into a war that they could get by no other means, to benefit arms merchants and the Jews.
The controversy has been renewed by a recently released film documentary, titled "Loose Ships." It makes a compelling case against the Shinto extremist theory, citing inconsistent eyewitness reports, mistaken radar readings, and structural analysis of the sunken battleships.
"It makes no sense to think that Japanese Shintoists could have done this," explains one of the film's producers. "Shinto is a deeply spiritual religion, derived from Buddhism, worshiping nature. A Shintoist would never have desecrated Pearl Harbor with all of that leaking and burning diesel fuel and oil. It is fundamentally a religion of peace."
Hat Tip: Commenters Elmondohummus and S. King.
posted by Pat @ 7:43 AM
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21 Comments:
Like hey man, I mean, I know it all! Like, I can make a movie just by putting my name on other people's stuff!
I'm like a genius with editing, man have you seen me ride the subway?
Man, like Pearl Harbor, how can you not see all those boats coming at you?
Loose Change! man did I show them at film school!
Man, if I only thought to put Loose Change on re-writeable DVD's I wouldn't be stuck with all these version 1, 2, 2.2, and now Finals! Like hey, I should have seen that coming! ha ha ha ha!
Let me guess, there is a debunking site for the Pearl Harbor conspiracy?
Someone has totally debunked this book?
http://www.amazon.com/Day-Deceit-
Truth-Pearl-Harbor/dp/0743201299
Is there a debunking site for this site?
http://216.177.7.126/pearl/
www.geocities.com/
Pentagon/6315/pearl.html
Well Done, Swing and Dem,
By the way, Bush said publicly, not once, but twice that he witnessed "watching (on TV in his Limo?) the 1st hit on 9/11.
No one has offered the thinest explanation of whether it is theoretically possible that Bush witnessed the 1st hit or how he could have been so confused to have misspoken.
You don't have to be a "denier" to think that a "real" 9/11 Commission Report would have clarified points such as this.
BG, from one tin-foil hat wearing liar, kook, moonbat, retard, troofer to another, thanks!
The Story Within
The Pearl Harbor Story: Link from Alex Jones
rayzor,
You really don't know your 9/11 facts, do you.
I have the link up soon, so you can inspect the incredible incriminating evidence yourself.
'And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on, and I use to fly myself, and I said, "There's one terrible pilot." And I said, "It must have been a horrible accident."'
Bush Caught in a Lie About the 9/11 WTC Attacks
So why exactly would Bush lie purely in order to incriminate himself?
Occam's razor here, was this some nefarious attempt by Bush to make himself look suspicious, or was he just confused. Let's face it, even if you like the guy, you have to admit he gets confused a lot.
This is like that whole argument about how the Secret Service kept Bush around the school too long. Why would they tell the Secret Service about the plot solely for the point of making them act more suspicious than they would otherwise?
"OK guys, there is going to be an attack on the WTC. But don't worry, we are behind it, so go ahead and ignore Secret Service protocol and take your time getting us out of here."
Is there some Department in the CIA, "The Department for making massive government conspiracies exponentially more complicated then they need to be"? Try fitting that on a business card.
"and I saw an airplane hit the tower"
Insert "had" and you get this:
"and I saw an airplane had hit the tower"
Which of course makes perfect sense, since everyone was seeing the first WTC on fire on TV that morning, and reporters were interviewing people who were saying that a plane had veered into the tower.
Do you really think that Bush was watching the CIA-TV channel's feed inside the school, just outside the classroom, and then relaying what he saw (but no one else could see) in this interview?
pdq said...
You are joking, right?
ScottSl said...
People often say "saw" instead of heard or "talked to" instead of "written to" or "saw" instead of "read"
BFD
Man, what peachy dancers you and pdq are!
The fraud bg continues to play his transparent games. He asked a question of Dr. Frank Greening, received an answer that was inconvenient to his mindless prejudices, and fled. Now, he tries to recycle democrat's Connect-the-Nonexistent-Dots routine.
Okay, I have said maybe a thousand times that I watched the planes hit the WTC. Well, the truth is that I watched VIDEO of the planes hitting the WTC. I guess I must be part of the Impossibly Vast Conspiracy.
How does Bush's confusion on a truly trivial point indicate the existence of a gigantic conspiracy, one that is disproved by ALL available evidence? Why are the liars so reluctant to make their case?
Our regular lunatics are now defending the Pearl Harbour conspiracy theory?
Amazing.
It's like they're intentionally trying to parody the CT movement. How much do you want to be that if we had 5 other CT'ers here, at least 2 of those would be accusing these guys of being paid government shills?
What the idiots don't get is that Bush was most likely mistaken about which crash he had seen.
And no, FDR did not know Pearl Harbor was going to be attacked.
BG, as it happens, I heard an interview with Kimmel this afternoon and he makes a reasonable case for his grandfather. But he didn't make any claims about FDR knew or that sort of nonsense. I haven't perused his site thoroughly, but I don't see any sign that he's a nutbar.
I think it's much more likely that he simply mis-spoke. "I saw an airplane hit the tower" is quite similar to "I saw an airplane had hit the tower". And since the list of "bushisms" is now at over 600, I don't see why people assume that his vocabulary must have been 100% perfect in this case.
Yeah, Shawn, I suspect what he saw was the gaping hole in the North Tower and then later the crash of the second plane and conflated the two. Unlike the rest of us, he wasn't able to just hang out and watch the news that day. Instead, the Deniers seem to think he saw some sort of closed-circuit broadcast from his minions in the Woolworth Tower.
He could've meant either 1) "I saw an airplane had hit the tower," or 2) "I saw that an airplane hit the tower."
Bush isn't a great speaker. We all know this. Why people like BG and his kin prefer to ignore this when it's convenient is one of the real 9/11 "mysteries".
I have proof - PROOF! - that FDR specifically said to Admiral Kimmel to "pull it" before the ships were hit by those ALLEGED Japanese planes. Just because a plane had Japanese insignia does not MEAN that it is Japanese! Come on, folks! And one of the ships sunk without colliding with another ship - it was only hit by one or two missiles fired by some guy in the Pentagon, which doesn't even exist in 1941!
We know who was behind 12/7. It is up to us to expose them, 65 years later.
It is not too late to get to the bottom of this scandal!
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