Chandler Conference Mentioned in AZ Republic
In what has to be considered a fairly neutral article:
A national conference focusing on conspiracy theories tied to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks is coming to Chandler next month.
"We are taking the information one step further, and we want to raise accountability," said Eric D. Williams, a filmmaker and conference co-chairman.
The event, "9/11 Accountability Strategies & Solutions Conference," will feature 40 speakers and 30 films. It will be Feb. 23-25 at the Crowne Plaza San Marcos Golf Resort in Chandler.
posted by Pat @ 7:35 AM
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21 Comments:
I'm in Glendale. Anyone else going to try and go to this to witness the cutting edge in stupidity?
"There are two conspiracy theories about 9/11, the government's and the other conspiracy theory," Williams said. "No matter whose theory you believe, no one has been held accountable."
Those of you that post regularly, who do you hold accountable?
JAMESB You once stated you had questions regarding NORAAD and the FAA. What questions do you have about those aspects of 9/11?
This isn't an issue I have looked into with great depth, but there is a bit of a controversy as to when each party was notified, and what action they took when. I think it is fair that this be clarified.
This, however, is completely different from alleging a conspiracy. Having years of experience with military operations, I can testify that these things happen on their own, they don't require evil puppet masters.
Swing,
Good question for James.
At one time I imagined that the SLC Blog could be a gathering place where honest debate could take place. Over the last month, it has become clear that:
1) the main draw of vocal commenters are about rah rah: truthers are idiots.
2) Not enough articulate skeptics show up here to keep the debate going.
3) I realize you are working it, and I support that.
4) Personally I'm giving up (except when the notion strikes me) this territory (SLC Blog) as not worth trying to engage.
For the last several days, I have had an ongoing "debate" in the online letters section of the Burlington Free Press (Vermont) in response to an article on a ballot initiative pushing for a "new" investigation of 9/11.
Please feel free to join in and help:
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Thursday, January 11, 2007
9/11 probe question will pass to voters
Published: Tuesday, January 9, 2007
By John Briggs
Free Press Staff Writer
Burlington voters on Town Meeting Day will be the first in the country to vote 'yes' or 'no' on reopening the investigation into what happened Sept. 11, 2001.
BALLOT TEXT
The wording of the advisory ballot question for Burlington on Town Meeting Day: "Shall Vermont's Congressional Delegation be advised to demand a new, thorough, and truly independent forensic investigation that fully addresses the many questions surrounding the tragic events of September 11, 2001?"
More information available at the local group's Web site, www.vt911.org. The site provides an overview of what the group sees as the inadequacies of the official 9/11 Commission report and provides links to related sites.
sfc b, I live in Phoenix and might try to stop by one of the days, but I'm certainly not interested in attending this nutathon.
JamesB
1. If people ask questions regarding aspects of 9/11, they are labeled as Troofers by this crowd.
2.You have questions regarding aspects of 9/11.
3.By definition, you are a 'troofer'.
Welcome, James! ;)
BTW, I didn't see the rebuttal to the Appendix part I mentioned in the Gatekeeper thread. Nice job on the PNAC issue though. Bad job attacking the source of the interview regarding black boxes.
Sorry to see you go BG. Where will you be going in your fight to educate others?
I enjoyed your links, despite what the 'clan' has to say about them.
See the Gatekeeper thread for an interesting line of battles taking place.
BG:
At one time I imagined that the SLC Blog could be a gathering place where honest debate could take place. Over the last month, it has become clear that:
1) the main draw of vocal commenters are about rah rah: truthers are idiots.
2) Not enough articulate skeptics show up here to keep the debate going.
3) I realize you are working it, and I support that.
4) Personally I'm giving up (except when the notion strikes me) this territory (SLC Blog) as not worth trying to engage.
1. When was the last time you tried to enter into an honest DEBATE on a topic actually posted by the owners of the blog, versus spamming any and all posts with unrelated, or very loosely related links and nothing more?
2. A better place for debate is Forum. Come over to the JREF and you will get lots of discussion, though I cant guarantee you'll like it there anymore than here.
3. I consider myself decently articulate, and I am sure you would find more here the same if your postings related to the topics the blog owners post here.
SWING:
If by accountable you mean who in the USG and other related organizations to I blame for 9/11, I would say noone. There has been no solid evidence provided by you or anyone else that anyone in the USG or FBI or CIA or FAA or ATC or NORAD or NEADS did anything negligently outside their protocols or job descriptions. This is an area that sees less debate, I will grant you, because of all the more hair brained crap the truthers post.
The closest I can come, IMO, to negligence, would be incompetence, and perhaps for that I would say that members of the administration who ignored, or minimized the seriousness of some of the warnings before 9/11. As well, members of the CIA and FBI who decided to only play things by the book, and not step out, even for a moment, to provide the other with info (In the 9/11 Commission report they mention CIA agent "David" who could have provided info to the FBI, but was under no obligation to do so, so didnt...this would be as close to neglect as I could see).
Please feel free to point out where you think people were neglegent, and hence should be held accountable, and I will tell you if I agree.
TAM
Swing,
With respect to where I'll hang out to chat about 9/11, I'm open to suggestions.
I keep my blog, which is really news / internet clippings.
I may start trying to update 911truth.wetpaint.com more. I'm planning on starting a restricted wiki for research, but this won't move forward unless I get contacted by interested parties.
bill.giltner @ gmail.com
1. If people ask questions regarding aspects of 9/11, they are labeled as Troofers by this crowd.
Give me a break, nobody has ever been labelled a "troofer" merely because they asked as to an exact accounting of the FAA and Norad response.
When you start claiming that a cruise missile hit the Pentagon, no plane crashed in Shanksville, and the World Trade Centers were blown up with super-nano thermite, that is when you will be labelled a "troofer".
You are making a logical fallacy, that because you ask one legitimate question, that any question you then ask, or any statement you then make is imbued with logic and reason. It does not follow.
What's the link Troy?
Give me a break, nobody has ever been labelled a "troofer" merely because they asked as to an exact accounting of the FAA and Norad response.
James, you have questions regarding 9/11. It is that simple. Because you restrict yours to particular areas doesn't let you off the asking 'questions' hook.
When you start claiming that a cruise missile hit the Pentagon, no plane crashed in Shanksville, and the World Trade Centers were blown up with super-nano thermite, that is when you will be labelled a "troofer".
So the definition of troofer has been changed from asking questions to making claims, correct?
And besides, I've done none of the above.
What criteria do you use to judge your question/s legitmate and other questions not legitimate?
Welcome to the fold, troofer!
He's halting the production of his films to sue these WingTV people.
Sweet Jesus. How'd you like to be the judge who has to preside over that battle of the intellectual titans?
So the definition of troofer has been changed from asking questions to making claims, correct?
Because this asking questions thing is a bogus tactic that truthers use to avoid having to have any evidence.
So Swing, is it true you beat your wife?
I heard that you were kicked out of school for cheating, prove that you were not.
Why is it you argue like an idiot? I want to know. Is it true that you have an IQ below room temperature?
I am not making any statements, therefore I don't need any evidence, or even a coherent argument. I AM JUST ASKING QUESTIONS HERE!
Those of you that post regularly, who do you hold accountable?
Osama bin Laden and his thousands of fanatics.
I think you give Dylan's cult too much credit...
Sweet Jesus. How'd you like to be the judge who has to preside over that battle of the intellectual titans?
I'd pay good money to see them in Judge Judy's courtroom. Normally I can't stand that woman, but the three of them together? My God. It'd make what the Romans did in the Colosseum look as civilized as a game of golf.
A national conference focusing on conspiracy theories tied to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks is coming to Chandler next month.
Maybe they can all march to the 9/11 "Memorial" which is filled with the worst bitter anti-American hatred, and sing "Kumbaya" or some other song.
Oh, and by the way: fuck these worthless shits, each and every one of them.
911blogger-Tracker Watch Review (01/11)
Updates:
9/11 Blogger Watch Reviews (01/11) http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001?id=2549
http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001?id=2544
January 10, 2007
911blogger-Tracker Watch Review (01/10)
Conservative South Carolina Newspaper runs review of 911 Press for Truth
http://911blogger.com/node/5507
Half newbie 911MagicianComm brings the Thompson/Hence chearleader dance about some local paper pushing hangout doku 911 Press for Truth
Sidelined by JJJames's dull comments about the 9/11 Commission, once infiltrated by CIA associate Thomas Kean (National Endowment for Democracy)
9/11 Theories To Be Discussed
http://911blogger.com/node/5513
Chearleader Infotainment from local paper in Arizona, started by King of the Truthlings, Jon "Fakery" Gold, about the forthcoming mega 9/11 Conference in 9/11 "hijacker" city Arizona. Includes namedropping of spook associate Steven E. Jones plus "New York artist Janette MacKinlay", Jim Marrs and John Feal, president of the FealGood Foundation.
Democrats Perpetuate 911 Commission Betrayal
http://911blogger.com/node/5502
Former GNN/Soros suckup Reprehensor, this time lapdogging Kyle Hence and his inane updates at 9/11 CitizensWatch about Repucrat Nanci Pelosi. Chearleaders: Jon Gold, followed by some borings like John Doraemi, altruist and card51short
Tucker Carlson Interviews Dr. David Ray Griffin
http://911blogger.com/node/2104
The Question is who is promoting who?
Double Cultist Griffin gets another free pass of military mass media.
Half Infotainment, because Videolink helpful for mashups.
Suckup dz wants "everyone to contact Jon Stewart and his friend Janeene Gerafello at Air America and beg them both to have Dr. Griffin on the Daily Show."
see also Waiting for Answers from One World Government Cultist David Ray Griffin (still not answered any of them since 01/05, as promised)
http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001?id=2467
It's the 11th!
http://911blogger.com/node/5517
Silly new mini campaigner by operator kos to call some "congressmen and demand a new investigation today". Not chearleadered yet...
Motassadeq, Yarkas, Moussaoui
http://911blogger.com/node/5509
Wannabee Poet Michael Morrissey (st911), who once backstabbed Holmgren but also 911InsideJobbers, bores us with 9/11 plotline updates about innocent Motassadeq from germany. Complete Distraction Hangout attempt to booster Morrissey's ego.
Followed with iInteresting response from 9/11 Fakery Analyst Ningen.
Saturday the 13th - David Rovics at VOX POP
http://911blogger.com/node/5516
Unsurprisingly Reprehensor sucks also up to Sander Hicks, whose daddy once worked at the World Bank. Hicks invites songwriter David Rovics with no significant 9/11 input so far. Lyrics hug annoying old school Ruppert disinfo bull on some alleged important CIA idiot named Krongard.
...more at
Can someone get me a paper towel, the spam is all over the windows now, and it is hard to read the legitimate discussion on the other side.
TAM
Don't you hate it when they splooge spam all over the place? It's like the drunken assholes who shit on city streets. Just shows no consideration for others. Who's supposed to clean that stuff up??
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