Thursday, April 08, 2010

Spam Scam

I've sort of ignored the "Building What?" campaign by the NYC-CAN branch of the Troofers. They've been contacting the various NYC council members, demanding an investigation into WTC-7's collapse. They apparently think that being pests is going to get the council on their side.

But Orphia Nay at JREF has been getting their updates via email, and I had to share this one:

"We’ve decided to continue sending email blasts. To make it possible, we kindly ask you to donate to help cover the extra $250 it will cost to send 12 more email blasts, AND, your donation will go toward a new NYC pubic opinion poll. Please donate a manageable amount of $25 - or more if you can manage. The poll will allow us to show the City Council that a majority of New Yorkers support a new investigation, and that a vast majority who've seen footage of Building 7 collapse do not believe office fires were the cause."


Email blasts run $20 apiece these days? Who knew? At any rate, it's clear that this is just another scam on the gullible Troofers.

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36 Comments:

At 08 April, 2010 12:13, Blogger Bill said...

"...a vast majority who've seen footage of Building 7 collapse do not believe office fires were the cause."

translated into reality: a vast majority who have seen our edited versions of the collapse without sound and false premises are led to believe that fires were not the cause.

oh well i say we commit public funds to investigating angels too.

 
At 08 April, 2010 13:08, Blogger Billman said...

Correct me if I'm wrong (and I very well could be), but I thought spamming through e-mail was illegal...

Heh, my verification word is "jewsh". The JOOOOOS!!!!

 
At 08 April, 2010 13:09, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"pubic opinion poll"
Even proofreaders are part of the evil NWO...

 
At 08 April, 2010 13:52, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Pat wrote, "...They've been contacting the various NYC council members, demanding an investigation into WTC-7's collapse. They apparently think that being pests is going to get the council on their side."

The nutters want "an investigation into WTC-7's collapse"?

What the Hell is NIST NCSTAR 1A? Chopped liver?

Source: NIST NCSTAR 1A: Final Report on the Collapse of World Trade Center Building 7.

 
At 08 April, 2010 16:18, Blogger Dave Kyte said...

Correct me if I'm wrong (and I very well could be), but I thought spamming through e-mail was illegal...

It's not illegal, but most ISPs take a dim view of mass emails and so you need to deal with a provider who will send these emails out, and that cost.

Either that or you deal with a hacker who has a bunch of zombie computers who can have them send out this spam.

 
At 08 April, 2010 16:25, Blogger Dave Kyte said...

If you are going to ask for money you go for the easy marks (suckers) and truthers sure fit that bill. A truther and his money is soon parted.

I am really surprised some enterprising person had not set them up to be burned. Tell them you have indisputable proof showing WTC7 being rigged with explosives. Ask for some cash for the videos.

 
At 08 April, 2010 17:11, Blogger Triterope said...

9-11 Truthers are so goddamn stupid.

This is supposed to be an internet- and new media-savvy movement. And NYC-CAN thinks email spam is effective?

I say, let 'em do it. It'll make WTC7 discussions as welcome as penis enlargement pills, pump-and-dump pink sheets, and dead Nigerian relatives.

 
At 08 April, 2010 19:21, Blogger angrysoba said...

I am really surprised some enterprising person had not set them up to be burned. Tell them you have indisputable proof showing WTC7 being rigged with explosives. Ask for some cash for the videos.


It's probably a good money spinner to make some videos of the building collapsing and then add some random graphs with wiggly lines on them saying "Audio Analysis" showing "Thermitic Exothermic Reaction Sonic Signature" etc...

But let's face it. All of those DVDs such as 9/11 Mysteries, Loose Change and Blueprint for 9/11 Truth are doing that anyway.

My verification word is "tonbuder" which isn't much evidence of a conspiracy but I like the word, if it is one.

 
At 08 April, 2010 20:00, Anonymous Craig said...

I'm actually pretty active in New York politics and live in Staten Island. I know all three of the Council Members from the Island. And, somehow, I got on this mailing list. So each time they chose someone that I knew, I forwarded the email to members of their staff and they began to read the talking points back to truthers calling in before they could finish their sentences. But they also told me that they got about 10-15 calls in total.
Not good for the truthers.

 
At 09 April, 2010 03:26, Blogger orphia_nay said...

Thanks for that info, Craig! Well done for giving the council members warning!

NYCCAN'T haven't been urging people to send emails for most of the campaign, it was just one of the alternatives for the last day.

But still, urging people to fax and phone is still spamming of sorts, and probably subject to some law or other.

 
At 09 April, 2010 07:28, Blogger Triterope said...

make some videos of the building collapsing and then add some random graphs with wiggly lines on them saying "Audio Analysis" showing "Thermitic Exothermic Reaction Sonic Signature" etc...

I'm sure SCIGEN could be modified for this purpose.

 
At 09 April, 2010 07:40, Anonymous Bikerman said...

But still, urging people to fax and phone is still spamming of sorts, and probably subject to some law or other.

Junk Fax is VERY illegal.

http://www.markwelch.com/faxlaw.htm

 
At 09 April, 2010 10:13, Blogger Triterope said...

Junk Fax is VERY illegal.

Yeah, but that's for "property, goods or services" per your link. Since NYC-CAN is a political cause, those laws may not apply. To be sure, a free speech argument could be made.

It doesn't need to be illegal. The mere use of this despicable technique will destroy the reputation of NYC-CAN in the minds of all those they wish to convince.

 
At 09 April, 2010 10:59, Anonymous Craig said...

Yeah, urging people to call eledcted officials in mass with a scripted message isn't illegal. Politically, most mainstream organizations do it, both left and right. For example, organizations on the right sent out emails with talking points for people to call their representatives urging them to vote no on the healthcare bill, while groups on the left did the same with a list of reasons why people should.
And, as someone who works for an elected official in NYC (no one in the Council) and answers constituent inquirys directly, you wouldn't believe some of the shit people call in with, in mass.

Still, I certainly wish I had been there to hear the reaction from the truthers when they called a Council member, began to run off their talking points, only to have someone finish their sentence for them.

 
At 10 April, 2010 00:16, Blogger angrysoba said...

Triterope, thanks for that. I managed to learn:

"We verified in this paper that IPv4 can be made heterogeneous, authenticated, and relational, and UnitaryErf is no exception to that rule [44]. We also explored a heuristic for the producer-consumer problem. One potentially great flaw of UnitaryErf is that it cannot construct flip-flop gates; we plan to address this in future work. We also described a novel heuristic for the exploration of B-trees. We expect to see many futurists move to evaluating our algorithm in the very near future."

I was thinking that it reminded me of Alan Sokal's hoax paper to "Social Text" or whatever the name of that post-modern magazine was called, but the website itself had a reference to it already.

Have you seen this postmodern essay generator which I suppose uses the same system?

In the works of Joyce, a predominant concept is the concept of cultural culture. The subject is contextualised into a posttextual nationalism that includes reality as a paradox. Thus, Baudrillard uses the term ‘predialectic dematerialism’ to denote a dialectic totality.

 
At 10 April, 2010 02:58, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice to know Staten Island council members know SLC visitors. Do the Staten Island council members know about Troy Sexton, the blog mascot?

 
At 10 April, 2010 04:03, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, a 250 dollar scam to fund an opinion poll. By the 9/11 family members.

Quite a find, Pat. I thought you really hit your low point when you attacked the first responders. I guess not! =)

 
At 10 April, 2010 09:31, Blogger Dave Kyte said...

Spam a Judge, Go to Jail?

Anyone who has been around the debunking of scam artists know of TV pitchman Kevin Trudeau, and I know many truthers must know him from being the type of suckers who would buy his Natural Cures "They" Don't Want You to Know About" books and his other scams.

This idiot urged his radio and web followers to deluge U.S. District Judge with e-mail so he would side with him in a civil lawsuit pending before the judge, something no sane person would do. Way to go piss off the guy who can put you in jail.

 
At 10 April, 2010 09:58, Anonymous Arhoolie the Cyber-Hero said...

"The mere use of this despicable technique".HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa.Debunker Cult stalwart Trite the DopeyStar in high dudgeon over e-mails to public representatives.Nah,no hatred in the Debunker Cult.Also,can someone ask the ridiculous "Bikerman" what VERY illegal means,because I,for one,need to know the difference.

 
At 10 April, 2010 13:27, Blogger GuitarBill said...

You bring new meaning to the word dense, Arsehoolie.

Here's what Pat wrote:

"...Email blasts run $20 apiece these days? Who knew? At any rate, it's clear that this is just another scam on the gullible Troofers."

It's not about sending e-mail--you feckless jacklass.

The problem is simple: The con artists (After all, "truthers" are nothing but con artists) who set up this email list are lying about the cost associated with sending the email.

Last time I checked, jackass, an email list can be set up for FREE, and it certainly doesn't cost anything to send the email beyond the monthly internet access fee charged by your ISP.

Got it, shit-for-brains?

 
At 11 April, 2010 12:48, Anonymous GuitarShrill,a Goofy Fuck said...

GuitarShrill knocks it out of the park! AGAIN!!! So,the minimal amount of money that is donated is being stolen by the people manning this endeavor? All $500? Is anyone's time worth anything these days? I guess your wide experience as a political activist (between hitting on cocktail waitresses at the bar mitzvah's) has taught you a magic trick whereby copying fliers,making phone calls and burning DVD's etc. is free,or costs pennies! You give "truthers" too much credit.They can't do what they do without eating and paying the rent.In NYC you can't walk out the door without it costing money.Just despicable,these people!!! And YuppieBoy,can you pipe down,I'm trying to listen to "Bikerman" and his explanation for "very illegal".Thanks,Bozo.

 
At 11 April, 2010 13:12, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Arsehoolie the gullible scribbles, "...So,the minimal amount of money that is donated is being stolen by the people manning this endeavor?"

That's right.

So just keep turning over your hard earned cash to "Con Artists for 9/11 truth", goober.

Tell us, Arsehoolie, did your parents have any children who lived?

 
At 11 April, 2010 13:40, Anonymous Arhoolie the Cyber-Hero said...

Hey Bozo,I asked you to pipe down,OK? Why do you even comment anymore? You've been housed,you Yuppie twit.Get back to boning up on your #93 theory,you obnoxious parasite.It needs burnishing!Get on it,jackoff,and stick to insultingn and degrading women,it's your strong suit.

 
At 11 April, 2010 14:04, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...Hey Bozo,I asked you to pipe down,OK?"

Since when do I take orders from a pencil-necked mental midget like you, Arsehoolie?

After all, I have 6'3" and 235 lbs. that says you'd run for the hills if I had you within arms reach.

You feeling lucky, hard guy?

"...Why do you even comment anymore? You've been housed,you Yuppie twit."

Well, if I've been "hosed" in this "debate", it certainly wasn't done by you, tranny boi.

"...Get back to boning up on your #93 theory,you obnoxious parasite.It needs burnishing!Get on it,jackoff,and stick to insultingn and degrading women,it's your strong suit."

That's rich--and especially so when one considers that when you pull down your pants in front of a woman the overwhelming response is something like, "...Is that a male penis? After all, it's far too small to be attached to a real man. Now stop sexually harassing me, Arsehoolie the rain-coater, because I already have one asshole in my pants."

I really don't think you want to "do the 9's" with me, fuckhead.

 
At 12 April, 2010 13:39, Anonymous Arhoolie the Cyber-Hero said...

Yet another weasely Yuppie with beer muscles from the Debunker Cult stumbles up.have you ever had a Gibson ES-335 broken over your head? No,jackoff,you've been housed,and housed good in front of your circle jerking compadres.That's why you've moved directly to the Dick and Vagina jokes.How the hell far away IS Shanksville from....ah,fuck it,you already crapped out on that one.Sounds to me like you're a fat trust funder whose wife cut him off a long while ago.And now you're bragging about it? Remember to take off your cheesy 'tweed and jean' fern bar outfit before you get clobbered up and down Broadway,Daddy.

 
At 12 April, 2010 18:54, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Arsehoolie the cyber pussy whimpers, "...Yet another weasely [SIC] Yuppie with beer muscles from the Debunker Cult stumbles up.have you ever had a Gibson ES-335 broken over your head?"

No, but I'll happily take the ES-335 from you and shove it up your ass.

Want to try me, hard guy?

"...Remember to take off your cheesy 'tweed and jean' fern bar outfit before you get clobbered up and down Broadway,Daddy."

I've got a Benjamin that says you couldn't punch your way out of a wet paper bag, pussy boi.

Again, you want to try me, hard guy?

 
At 13 April, 2010 13:59, Anonymous Arhoolie the GuitarShrill Shredder said...

Hey now,wait just a cotton pickin' second there Elmer.Don't ya think you're carryin' this thing a tick too far? Whoa,Tiger.If your wife would give you just one l'il ol' blow job don't ya jes think we could talk this over like civilized chaps? Jeepers,there DogBoy!!

 
At 13 April, 2010 14:48, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Arsehoolie the cyber dunce scribbles, "...Hey now,wait just a cotton pickin' second there Elmer.Don't ya think you're carryin' this thing a tick too far? Whoa,Tiger.If your wife would give you just one l'il ol' blow job don't ya jes think we could talk this over like civilized chaps? Jeepers,there DogBoy!!"

Incoming. Oaf at 12 o'clock high.

 
At 13 April, 2010 18:23, Anonymous Anonymous said...

GuitarBill "After all, I have 6'3" and 235 lbs. that says you'd run for the hills if I had you within arms reach."

Is that so? I'm a lot taller, heavier, and stronger.

Since I know my own proportions, for that length, 235 lbs means you have a beer belly and a fat ass. Thanks for letting us know you're a fat, lazy, swine. Hahaha.

 
At 13 April, 2010 22:46, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Arsehoolie the cyber rectum scribbles, "...Since I know my own proportions, for that length, 235 lbs means you have a beer belly and a fat ass."

You know about as much about "proportions" as you do scientific logic--zilch.

Yeah, and let me guess, you've been telling women that your johnson, which measures no more than ~20mm at full mast, is really 6".

No wonder women have a hard time judging distance. After all, for the last 6000 years, toothpick dick motherfuckers like Arsehoolie have been telling them that 20mm is really 7".

 
At 14 April, 2010 11:50, Anonymous Arhoolie the Cyber-Hero said...

Wasn't me,you jackoff who doesn't know when to shut the fuck up! "Anonymous" is right though,you're obviously a Yuppie schlump who can't even do 20 situps without raiding the Aleve bottle.And bragging about it! You can't get goofier than that.You've been housed you dumb schnook,and your wife beats off to Brad Pitt.Right in the bed next to you!!! Now get back to the Google maps and boning up on yout Coltrane lore.Oof!

 
At 14 April, 2010 12:08, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Arsehoolie, do yourself a favor and slit your wrists--it'll lower your blood pressure.

 
At 14 April, 2010 12:53, Anonymous Arhoolie Wins Again!!! said...

See what happens when you combine STP with LSD? A raving lunatic who can't get a word in edge-wise at is own dinner table."Daddy,shut your ass and pass the Wonder Bread!".

 
At 14 April, 2010 14:28, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Arsehoolie, please whatever you do, learn from your parents' mistakes--use birth control.

 
At 15 April, 2010 08:48, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think it should be legal to abort a 43-year-old guitar fiddling baby. Not all life has worth.

 
At 15 April, 2010 09:45, Anonymous Arhoolie said...

"GitShrill" has fallen comfortably back into his safe zone:the warm climes of "The Bennett Cerf Joke Book".That's about your speed,Captain Kangaroo! What would you expect from a thread that muckrakes an....... "e-mail scam".D'oh! Har-har hardee har har,you're a regular riot,Norton.

 

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