A Truther History of Debates

Over two years ago Mark Roberts from the JREF Forum debated ae911 founder Richard Gage, an event which despite their bravado did not merit a mention in any truther source I could find. Now it finally is brought up in this history of 9/11 conspiracy debates on the ae911 website.

Roberts could barely contain his hostility towards Gage, accusing him of lying several times and impugning his motives. The ill will Roberts brings to the discussion is evident in many of his online posts where he goes by the name of “Gravy.” One such post on a James Randi Educational Forum refers to “Gage and his gang of lazy, lying, despicable creeps,” which indicates that he doesn’t just disagree with his opposition; he despises them.

The article also points out that, unwittingly I presume, that despite Gage's constant claim to be a scientist and not a conspiracy theorist, he stills buys into all the long ago debunked truther kool aid.

Shermer opened saying he thought the government’s official inquiries did a fairly good job and argued that Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda said they did it and intended to do it again. Gage, uncharacteristically took the bait this time and countered that the photograph did not look at all like bin Laden and that Bin Laden claimed that he it was not responsible.

Nevermind that this was long ago shown to be an issue of the conversion of the video between PAL and NTSC.

And believe it or not, Gage does a David Ray Griffin and insists the hijackers are still alive.

Coiro asked about the possibility of the planes having been remotely controlled. Gage said it was possible but beyond the scope of AE911Truth. He mentioned the named suspects who turned up alive after being accused of murder and suicide. On this point Shermer revealed a dismissive approach to what Gage was saying. Shermer said Americans easily confuse Middle Eastern names and that those people were all dead. “That claim has been looked into. None of those people have been interviewed,” Shermer said.

BBC, however, carried a story that said an accused hijacker, Waleed Al Shehri, was protesting the accusation in Morocco and has talked with journalists.

The BBC, however, also carried a story in which they corrected their earlier inaccurate one.