Coach Kook?
Well, looks like James' football team is run by a nutbar:
Seattle head coach Pete Carroll hosted a retired four-star general at the Seahawks facility last spring and blitzed him with questions about whether the 9/11 attacks “had been planned or faked” by the government, according to Deadspin.com.
Decorated general Peter Chiarelli, who had just called it a career, was discussing football and brain injuries with Carroll before the conversation took a turn, Deadspin reported.I had to chuckle at this part:
“Pete grew up in California during Vietnam, and during Watergate,” Ellison said. “That’s just the perspective he brings to the table.”I grew up during Vietnam and Watergate, and I don't get the point.
posted by Pat @ 12:44 PM
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Well see Pat what you missed is that the entire Vietnam War was fake. It was all filmed at Eglin AFB until they were done faking the moon landings, then they moved the operation to that huge abandoned aircraft hangar in New Mexico.
I could see why he might be paranoid...
Who's Pete Carroll and what does he know? After all, no one knows more about brain injuries than me and Pete Chiarelli.
Come to think of it, when I was a kid, we never wore bicycle helmets.
And did I tell you we never wore bicycle helmets?
Squeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaallllllllll!!!!!!!!
Whoooooaaaaaa Nellllllie! I just got the results of my MRI scan back and I've been diagnosed with Brian.
It's a brain disorder.
Psssssssssst, kid, I have a question for you: In my neighbor hood, how do you get a nun pregnant?
Dress her up as an altar boy.
Psssssssst kid, I have another question for you: Why is Fred Flintstone a closeted homosexual?
Because he has 'a gay old time.'
snug.bug: "Dad, this boy in school keeps calling me gay."
snug.bug's dad: "Then why don't you just beat the shit out him?"
snug.bug: "I can't, he's too cute."
So what was the general's response, hmmmm?
You could ask David Banner. He thinks he knows everything.
Hey Brian.
Still butt hurt?
Well be prepared to be butt hurt again my little friend.
Bush isn't an architect. Richard Gage is. Bush never studied up on fire protection, but Gage, oh boy. Bush couldn't read blueprints, but Gage, look out. Bush wouldn't know where to place explosives, but Gage, he would know.
Richard Gage planted explosives in the buildings, He's an architect and he would know a lot more than Bush would about buildings.
hosted a retired four-star general....
........blitzed him with questions.....
.......“had been planned or faked”......
Yeah, the questions were planned and they were fake as all hell.
Why do they call this stuff 'toilet paper'?
I mean, after all, I've been wiping my brain with the stuff for decades.
James B., I have a question:
How many gay men does it take to screw in a light bulb?
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David, you couldn't hurt my butt with a pitchfork.
So where do you practice architecture, David? Are you a member of the AIA? Most architects under sixty seem to have some kind of internet presence, but I can't find any architect named David Banner.
David, please rape my @ss with a pitchfork.
So where do you practice architecture, David? Are you a member of the AIA? Now that I'm sixty and senile, I can't find my Easter eggs.
Most architects under sixty seem to have some kind of internet presence, but I can't find any architect named David Banner.
Oh, my God.
Can you find an architect named David Banner on the internet, TR? Or are you just saying OMG for rhetorical effect?
Triterope wrote, "Oh, my God."
Shocked? Why? After all, "snug.bug" doesn't have anything but smears, lies and innuendo.
Has "snug.bug" ever set out to prove anything? Of course not. That's why he relies solely on smear and innuendo. Recall, lies and half-truths can't be substantiated,so he tosses scat like a monkey in cage while he desperately hopes his BS will stick.
So what's new? Smear and innuendo are standard operating procedure for "snug.bug."
RULE: Where "snug.bug" is concerned, don't "debate," BERATE. Ridicule is ALL he deserves.
Utterfail, why do you regard "setting out to prove" something as admirable? That's unscientific. I don't set out to prove or disprove. I set out to examine the facts.
I didn't set out to prove that Willie Rodriguez was a liar and a fraud. I examined the facts, and determined that his story is not true, he's a liar, and he's a fraud.
Can YOU find an architect named David Banner on the internet? I didn't think so
The lying liar lies, "...Can you find an architect named David Banner on the internet, TR?"
Logical fallacy: argumentum ad ignorantiam
Your argument is a false dichotomy because it fails to mention that your half-assed "investigation" is insufficient and does not dig deep enough to prove the proposition satisfactorily to be either true or false.
As always, all you have a lies, logical fallacies, smears and innuendo. The only person you manage to fool is yourself.
The lying liar lies, "...why do you regard "setting out to prove" something as admirable?"
Logical fallacy: Straw man argument
I never claimed anything was "admirable." I was describing your pathological behavior.
You simply can't "debate" without adding your idiotic and utterly fallacious "interpretation," can you, jackass?
Jackass whines, "...I set out to examine the facts."
You don't know fuck all about "science," and you wouldn't know a fact if it jumped up and bit you on your unwashed ass.
I didn't say I did any investigation, and I didn't say David Banner was not an architect. I said I couldn't find any architect named David Banner on the internet. That is a fact. I couldn't find any architect named David Banner on the internet. A fact is not a logical fallacy--unless it is abused by a clown like you. Unlike you, I try to avoid jumping to conclusions.
I did find a licensed architect named Peter Lee Banner in Dayton, Maryland--which is why I refer to David Banner as "Junior".
Oh, so are you saying that setting out to prove something is NOT admirable? Then why were you criticizing me for not doing it?
More GutBleat from UtterFail. How's that Wayne Newton tribute act thing working out for you?
Umm... I think I'll just show myself out.
Shut the fuck up, liar.
Your "argument" proceeds from a unverifiable assumption--and I quote:
"...Most architects under sixty seem to have some kind of internet presence...[blah][blah][blah]."
You have not one IOTA of evidence to support that assertion, ass.
You proceed from an unverifiable assumption for one reason and one reason only: In order to smear Mr. Banner and use innuendo to cast unjustified doubt on his argument.
You're a sleazebag.
The lying liar lies, "...Unlike you, I try to avoid jumping to conclusions."
Yeah, right! That's why your entire "argument" is based on an unverifiable assumption, because you "try to avoid jumping to conclusions."
It's a wonder that you don't choke on your duplicity --you sleazebag.
IOW, TR, you can't find any architect named David Banner.
IOW, as a degenerate and a pathological liar, you can't stop resorting to smears and innuendo.
So where's your evidence to support your bogus "[m]ost architects under sixty seem to have some kind of internet presence" assertion?
No one owes you a response UNTIL YOU SUBSTANTIATE YOUR ASSERTIONS, ASS.
But that's not going to happen, is it, liar? After all, lies, smears and innuendo can't be substantiated. Your entire argument is a lame attempt to smear DB. It assumes that every architect is a principle rather than an employee of a firm. Thus, your "argument" is twaddle.
You're a pimple on the ass of humanity.
So where do you practice architecture, David? Are you a member of the AIA? Most architects under sixty seem to have some kind of internet presence, but I can't find any architect named David Banner.
That's for me to know and you to find out. I could be. Well I kind of liked watching the old Incredible Hulk TV show they had on at the time. David Banner should've rang a bell in your head Brian.
I'd rather remain an anonymous architect because this is the only way I won't get harassed, stalked and targeted by some real whackos who would like to hurt me or my family.
There's no reason to believe the claims of anonymous internet posters as to their unverifiable credentials.
As opposed to what, liar? Your nonexistent credentials?
I found an architect named David Banner. He works at UCLA. My Uncle Steve knows him.
Also, more research on the internet tells me there's this unemployed janitor from Palo Alto named Brian Good who used to be in the truth movement, but was banned for being a sex predator.
Do you know Brian Good, snug.bug?
Also, I googled "Ian" and found out that there's one who is a successful brand manager at a New York company. He happens to also be exceptionally well-dressed and handsome.
snug.bug, please let Brian Good know that Ian will give him tips on getting a decent haircut and good clothes so he looks like less of a homeless lunatic.
Can you find an architect named David Banner on the internet, TR?
"What I can't find on the Internet does not exist" is a cognitive bias.
There's no reason to believe the claims of anonymous internet posters as to their unverifiable credentials.
Just because I choose to protect myself and my family doesn't mean I have "unverified credentials" Brian.
I've heard what happened to R.K. Owens, how the CTers were harassing and stalking his father and mother and calling them on the phone leaving threatening messages. Or did that slip your mind too Brian?
It's my Constitutional right to defend myself and my family against ANY threat (including you numb nuts) foreign and domestic.
You want to piss all over the Constitution so you can tout your stupid theories and pretend your rights are being taken away? Go ahead. Sooner or later someone will come along, track you down to where you live and have a debate on your doorstep.
But of course you'd be afraid to even move from your computer and too chicken to step outside.
RGT, I didn't say David Banner didn't exist. If you would bother to google "David Banner architect" you would find evidence that David Banner does exist.
I said I can not find any evidence on the internet of any David Banner who is an architect.
It never ceases to amaze me that people who are perfectly competent to evaluate simple epistemic issues when driving (such as is it safe to pass on a hill or on a curve) should be so confounded by simple logic in other areas.
But then, that goes a long way to explain why y'all are so confused about 9/11, and must resort to gossipy lies in order to have anything to say at all.
David, your alleged credentials are unverified as long as you operate under a pseudonym. There is no denying that simple fact.
I never heard of anyone harassing any RK Owens. Where did you hear about it? From RK Owens? RK Owens makes stupid videos on youtube.
I'm not disputing your constitutional right to lie on the internet if you want.
Just don't expect anyone to take seriously your claimed credentials when you won't back them up.
I said I can not find any evidence on the internet of any David Banner who is an architect.
"What I can't find on the Internet does not exist" is a cognitive bias.
RGT, I'm sorry that you can not distinguish between "can not find any evidence of" and "does not exist", but that's not my fault. Were you home-skooled?
You also seem to be unable to distinguish between a) your faulty beliefs about what I said and b) what I said. That's not my fault either.
Pot calling the Kettle black? After all, I, punxsutawneybarney, make stupid videos on youtube.
So RGT, what makes you think that I'm a hypocrite, a liar and a sex predator?
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GutBleat, Barrett is a liar.
RGT, I'm sorry that you can not distinguish between "can not find any evidence of" and "does not exist", but that's not my fault.
In science, the distinction is unimportant.
Where did you get such a silly idea?
Where did you get such a silly idea?
You're joking, right? Cite a counterexample.
I can not find any evidence of nitrogen in my living room. But only a fool would claim there is no nitrogen in my living room.
I can not find any evidence of nitrogen in my living room.
Use a scientifically-accepted test for nitrogen and report back.
RGT, I can not find any evidence of nitrogen in my living room. But only a fool would claim there is no nitrogen in my living room.
Conversely, no one has ever witnessed me take a dump; thus, I've never taken a shit. See? My logic is impeccable. And, low and behold, now you know why I'm so full of shit.
So RGT, what makes you think that I'm a sex predator?
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This latest exchange with Brian reminds me of the time that he thought F-15s should have intercepted UA 93 and, as a "warning" to the hijackers, should have used their wings to "tip" the wings of the 757.
Needless to say, the reaction around here was one of jaw-dropping incredulity. When Brian demanded an explanation of why his idea was so insane, the response from everyone was basically "we're not going to tell you, Brian".
And then Brian started squealing and called us "girls".
Still, it's funny to be reminded from time to time how little connection with reality Brian has. It explains a lot.
David, your alleged credentials are unverified as long as you operate under a pseudonym. There is no denying that simple fact.
I do that in case someone like you decides to come to my house and harass and stalk my family and me. Can you deny that your ilk does commit crimes on behalf of your delusional beliefs Brian?
I never heard of anyone harassing any RK Owens. Where did you hear about it?....... on youtube.
Nice of you to answer your own question, you should do that more often.
I'm not disputing your constitutional right to lie on the internet if you want.
Just don't expect anyone to take seriously your claimed credentials when you won't back them up.
I have a well established arsenal in my home, try me.
Why should I do your research for you you lazy bum? You claimed to be an infamous researcher and lied about it as being your job. So you tell me who I am and if I'm an architect or not, your job to find out.
RGT, there's no need to test for nitrogen. The question is not "is there or is there not nitrogen in my living room?" The question is "does my failure to find evidence for nitrogen in my living room equate to there being no nitrogen in the living room?" And the answer is clearly, "no".
Ian, as usual you lie. F-15s can fly at 1800 mph. UA93 could fly at only 600 mph.
David, in other words you refuse to back up your claim that you are an architect, and you refuse to back up your claims that someone harassed RK Owens. Thanks for demonstrating so clearly why you're a waste of time.
Troofers don't stalk, harass and threaten their opponents?
What's this, liar?
"I have had conspiracy people threaten me countless times (though, like their right-wing brothers, they're too chickensh*t to do anything). One Truther wrote poison-pen letters to various organizations around town, accusing me of various imaginary crimes.
"After all, I'm obviously a government agent, so it's OK to smear my reputation, right?
"Another Truther punished me by making obscene YouTube videos falsely accusing me of being gay. Satiric videos would have been OK. But these clips were just semi-pornographic attacks on my character, tinged with homophobia, and I was able to get YouTube to remove them.
"Take it from me--you pay a high price for daring to disagree with these pr*cks. -- Perry Logan
And by the way, liar, Perry Logan is not a pseudonym.
Now respond with another argument from incredulity, shitsack.
Once again, you FAIL, liar.
Ummm, GutBleat, your link is not about Perry Logan. It's about some guy named Michael O'Hare and has nothing to do with 9/11 at all.
Thanks for exhibiting your incompetence, putz.
"...Thanks for exhibiting your incompetence, putz."
Thanks for proving that you're as predictable as you are stupid.
I didn't cite the author of the article -- you droolin' cretin. Perry's comment is in Alternet's comment section -- you incompetent liar.
In fact, I posted Perry's comment to SLC back on 17 July 2010
Now respond with another argument from ignorance, jackass.
By the way, liar, Perry's comment was dated 30 May 2009
Idiot lies, "...It's about some guy named Michael O'Hare and has nothing to do with 9/11 at all."
The article is about CONSPIRACY THEORISTS -- you stupid idiot.
Read the title and the subtitle of the article, jackass:
How a Conspiracy Theorist Who Thought I Was the Zodiac Killer Almost Ruined My Life
Subtitle: Conspiracies theories are all fun and games until you become the subject of one.
Thus, we have more proof that you're either dishonest to the core or you're a droolin' idiot. Take your pick, jackass.
David, in other words you refuse to back up your claim that you are an architect, and you refuse to back up your claims that someone harassed RK Owens. Thanks for demonstrating so clearly why you're a waste of time.
I refuse to do a bums job. You wrote online that you're a researcher. Well prove it right here right now Brian. I'm questioning YOUR job description.
I have no need to "back up" anything about RKOwens being harassed/stalked and those threatening calls to his parents. Everyone knows what you imbiciles did.
Yes, I thank you for telling us all that YOU ARE A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME.
Gotta get into Brians "intellectual" persona. It pisses him off and I LOVE doing that to him.
Question me about being an architect will you? Liar says he's a "researcher", well he better prove me wrong on that subject.
And Perry Logan has a long history at SLC. E.g.,
In Response to Perry Logan, dated 30 May 2006.
Perry Logan's Words of Wisdom, dated 16 August 2006.
Now respond with another argument from ignorance -- you droolin' assclown.
Ian, as usual you lie. F-15s can fly at 1800 mph. UA93 could fly at only 600 mph.
Brian, you posted here that you thought the F-15s should have tipped the wings of UA 93. Then everyone here mocked you mercilessly for it, and you got upset, started squealing, and called us "girls".
The max air speed of the two jets is not even remotely relevant to what I said.
David, in other words you refuse to back up your claim that you are an architect, and you refuse to back up your claims that someone harassed RK Owens. Thanks for demonstrating so clearly why you're a waste of time.
Yes, Brian, you've called us all a waste of time many times, which explains why you're still posting your spam here 4.5 years after you first started, even though all that ever happens is that we mock you mercilessly for things like your hideous haircut, the fact that you failed out of San Jose State, and the fact that you were banned from Wikipedia for vandalism.
Also, David Banner is an architecture professor at UCLA. My Uncle Steve knows him.
UtterFail, there are no comments to the alternet article. Which just goes to show how dishonest you're willing to be to try to give the impression that you're not incompetent.
Ian, you lie and lie and lie.
David, I can't research someone who's such a wussyboy that he's afraid to give me his real name.
David, I can't research someone who's such a wussyboy that he's afraid to give me his real name.
"Wussboy"? You must be describing yourself Brian. I know you live in an apartment complex located in Palo Alto, CA. Your mother's name is Janice. You live on the 3rd floor of the complex.
Why should I give my real name out to the likes of you? So you can look me up, find my mailing address and phone number so you can write and call me with threats? Yeah, you wish that would happen.
Whoever has an account with JREF, you might want to go to the forum and post this in the July Stundie Nominations:
Most architects under sixty seem to have some kind of internet presence, but I can't find any architect named David Banner.
A lot of people will have a field day with that.
David, why would I want to threaten you? You're just another liar.
The lying liar lies, "...there are no comments to the alternet [SIC] article. Which just goes to show how dishonest you're willing to be to try to give the impression that you're not incompetent."
Yes, there are comments, liar. You were too stupid to read and understand the title and subtitle of the article, and now you're too stupid and computer illiterate to figure out how to open Alternet's comment section.
Should we expect less from a sex predator, a liar and a cretin? Probably not.
By the way, it's late, perv boi! Shouldn't you be out lurking in the shadows waiting for an opportunity to flash your junk at the the little old ladies who frequent Golden Gate Park?
Brian Good (aka "snug.bug") is living proof that you can lead an idiot to the truth, but you can't make him think.
Ian, you lie and lie and lie.
Poor Brian. He's hysterical because I've humiliated him again.
So, to sum up, Brian Good sniffed a lot of glue and told us that he thought F-15s should have "tipped" UA 93 as a "warning". Now he's humiliated that he ever said such a thing (just like his "meatball on a fork" idiocy humiliates him too). So of course he just lies about it, much like he lies about running away squealing and crying from Willie Rodriguez' debate challenge.
Also, Brian, you still haven't provided any evidence that there are widows with questions.
The question is "does my failure to find evidence for nitrogen in my living room equate to there being no nitrogen in the living room?"
That's not even the question. God you're so confused.
RGT wrote, "...That's not even the question. God you're so confused."
He's not confused, he does this deliberately. As "snug.bug"'s fellow troofer, "SnowCrash," pointed out, he's a "shameless liar" and a "cunning troll."
That said, it's easy to know when you have "snug.bug"'s back against the wall -- he posts dumbspam, idiotic "analogies" and resorts to smear tactics. Recall, his mental illness won't allow him to admit that he's wrong. He's sick. For this reason alone, his computer should be confiscated and he should be placed in a state-run mental hospital.
Remember, where "snug.bug" is concerned, don't "debate," berate. He doesn't deserve anything more than public ridicule.
Ian wrote, "Also, Brian, you still haven't provided any evidence that there are widows with questions."
Of course he has provided evidence that the "widows" have "questions" -- provided you define "questions" as accusatory innuendo.
So, to sum up, Brian Good sniffed a lot of glue and told us that he thought F-15s should have "tipped" UA 93 as a "warning".
Ian, run along and play. The grownups are talking.
TR, pray tell--what is stupid about ramming or tipping an airliner?
So Ian, what makes you think that I'm a liar?
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So, to sum up, Brian Good sniffed a lot of glue and told us that he thought F-15s should have "tipped" UA 93 as a "warning".
Ian, run along and play. The grownups are talking.
Ferris wrote: NORAD wasn't called until after the jets had been hijacked so that they had no idea where to start looking...If you'd bother to read the Bronner article, you'd see they were informed that flight 11 was 30 miles north of JFK airport...The question of whether the fighters were armed or not is irrelevant to the question of the failure of NORAD to intercept any of the errant airliners--intimidation was certainly a viable strategy and, since you mention it, ramming or tipping.
So Ian, what makes you think that I'm a liar?
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So, to sum up, Brian Good sniffed a lot of glue and told us that he thought F-15s should have "tipped" UA 93 as a "warning".
Ian, run along and play. The grownups are talking.
Then TR made the idiotic argument that the notion of ramming an airliner was stupid.
So Ian, what makes you think that I'm a liar?
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So, to sum up, Brian Good sniffed a lot of glue and told us that he thought F-15s should have "tipped" UA 93 as a "warning".
Ian, run along and play. The grownups are talking.
No, and thanks for once again acknowledging your toasthood by trying to change the subject instead of explaining what you were thinking when you said the notion of ramming or tipping the 757 as a means of foiling its mission was stupid.
So Ian, what makes you think that I'm a liar?
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So, to sum up, Brian Good sniffed a lot of glue and told us that he thought F-15s should have "tipped" UA 93 as a "warning".
Ian, run along and play. The grownups are talking.
Do you want to maybe explain why the idea of ramming or tipping the airliner is stupid, or acknowledge that it's not?
So Ian, what makes you think that I'm a liar?
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So, to sum up, Brian Good sniffed a lot of glue and told us that he thought F-15s should have "tipped" UA 93 as a "warning".
Ian, run along and play. The grownups are talking.
Please specify what I said that was a lie, TR. And what's this about ramming airliners? Why are you afraid to say what puts that beyond the pale? Because it makes you look foolish?
So Ian, what makes you think that I'm a liar?
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So, to sum up, Brian Good sniffed a lot of glue and told us that he thought F-15s should have "tipped" UA 93 as a "warning".
Ian, run along and play. The grownups are talking.
So your argument is that if ramming is not SOP then it must be stupid?
So Ian, what makes you think that I'm a liar?
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So, to sum up, Brian Good sniffed a lot of glue and told us that he thought F-15s should have "tipped" UA 93 as a "warning".
Ian, run along and play. The grownups are talking.
So what exactly is insane about ramming a doomed airliner to prevent it from fulfilling its suicide mission?
So Ian, what makes you think that I'm a liar?
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So, to sum up, Brian Good sniffed a lot of glue and told us that he thought F-15s should have "tipped" UA 93 as a "warning".
Ian, run along and play. The grownups are talking.
Instead of posing physics riddles, why not just answer the question? What exactly is dumb about ramming an airliner?
So Ian, what makes you think that I'm a liar?
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So, to sum up, Brian Good sniffed a lot of glue and told us that he thought F-15s should have "tipped" UA 93 as a "warning".
Ian, run along and play. The grownups are talking.
Oh I got it. In the TR playbook, ramming is stupid because it's not SOP...Thanks for clarifying.
So Ian, what makes you think that I'm a liar?
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So, to sum up, Brian Good sniffed a lot of glue and told us that he thought F-15s should have "tipped" UA 93 as a "warning".
Ian, run along and play. The grownups are talking.
I never said there was nothing wrong with ramming an airliner with an F-16.
So Ian, what makes you think that I'm a liar?
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It's like talking to a child, isn't it? -- Triterope.
David, why would I want to threaten you?
Because I'm an architect and you're pissed off that you don't know who I am and which company I work for.
You're just another liar.
You're just jealous that this "liar" can draw up blueprints and UNDERSTAND them, also you're jealous that I make a lot more money than that Government monthly check you collect each month. So what you are trying to say there shill?
I love how Brian leaves this fact out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCcX9c4cdNM
RGT, the question is exactly "How does my failure to find evidence for nitrogen in my living room equate to there being no nitrogen in the living room?" You claimed that it does equate that.
And then GutterBall claimed that his link said something it didn't, and he lied about that.
You guys say really STOOOPID things and then lie about it.
David, why should I pissed off that I don't know where you work? Why would I want to know where you work? You're just another liar on this board. Why should I have any interest?
Drawing up blueprints and understanding them is no great shakes. Any idiot can do that. I learned to do that in eighth grade.
And what significance do you ascribe to the 1975 WTC fire? That's just more empty posturing on your part.
DB, your video has a clip of New York City's 22nd fire commissioner, the late John T. O'Hagan. Fire commissioner O'Hagan was VERY critical of the WTC design and safety practices.
Wikipedia writes, "...He [John T. O'Hagan] earned a reputation as a brilliant fire officer and a tough manager, despite his initial lack of knowledge of how to work the levers of city government. Even Chief O'Hagan, commanding a leader as he was, could not thwart a 1968 revision of the building code, drafted in large part by the real estate industry, that he thought thinned the margin of fire safety...Still, Chief O'Hagan did not give up. He returned in 1973 with safety measures added to the code. But they did not apply to the World Trade Center, which, being owned by another government agency, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, was exempt from city codes — and fire inspections." -- John T. O'Hagan (1925–1991), 22nd Fire Commissioner of the City of New York.
The lying liar lies, "...And then GutterBall claimed that his link said something it didn't, and he lied about that."
Your inability to open Alternet's comment section isn't my problem, it's a reflection of your corruption, dishonesty and stupidity.
In fact, I posted Perry's comment to SLC, IN RESPONSE TO YOUR BULLSHIT, back on 17 July 2010.
Since you're a proven compulsive liar, it should surprise no one that you would resort to smear tactics, DUMBSPAM and innuendo when your bullshit is proven false.
All debunkers know that revealing your real name to the troofers will result in stalking and harassment.
Not only is harassment a possibility, murder is also a possibility.
E.g.,
[1] Sean Fitzgerald, who stabbed his father, Dr. Edward Fitzgerald, to death while his mom slept in the same bed;
[2] Curtiss Maynard, who murdered his wife, Melissa Meza, 34, before killing himself;
[3] James W. Von Brunn, who murdered Holocaust Museum security guard Stephen Tyrone Johns, 39;
[4] Kurt Sonnenfeld, who allegedly murdered his wife, Nancy Sonnenfeld, 36. Today, Sonnenfeld is a fugitive who lives in Argentina. He is wanted for murder by the Denver police and the FBI;
[5] Richard Poplawski, a rabid 9/11 troofer and devoted Alex Jones fan who killed three Pittsburgh, PA cops;
[6] Jared Loughner, who murdered six people in an Arizona shooting spree;
[7] John Patrick Bedell, the Pentagon shooter, who was killed after wounding two police officers;
[7] Byron Williams, who instigated a shootout with the California Highway Patrol but failed to kill anyone
and [8] Philip Marshall who murdered his two teenaged children and his dog in cold blood before he turned the weapon on himself.
That's a total of 14 Americans who perished at the hands of 9/11 "truthers".
No, debunkers have nothing whatsoever to fear from deranged, homicidal troofers -- nothing at all.
Fucking nutbag.
"It doesn't matter how polite you try to be. Disagreeing with a conspiracy theorist is a thought-crime, punishable by ceaseless character assassination." -- Perry Logan
Yep, and "snug.bug" (aka Brian Good) proves you're correct every time he posts his smears, lies and innuendo to SLC.
GutterBall, at the comment section at your alternet article there are no comments. You lie, and then you lie about the lies.
So Gutterball, you can list a dozen murders out of 30 million truthers.
How many murders have been done in the last ten years by people who are not truthers?
Seems to me that non-truthers are more likely to commit murder than truthers are.
I'm sure it's not news to you that you're not very bright.
The lying liar lies, "...at the comment section at your alternet [SIC] article there are no comments. You lie, and then you lie about the lies."
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Why do I have no problem opening the comment section?????? The comment is there, you're just too dishonest and corrupt to admit what everyone else knows is true.
That's explains why I originally posted Perry Logan's comment to SLC on 17 July 2010.
NOT.
And that's why I proved that Perry Logan was an SLC participant and reader as far back as 2006.
Yeah, Perry Logan is a figment of my imagination. Too bad the links I provide bring the lie to your never-ending stream of smears, lies and innuendo. You lie first, last and always.
You're not only an idiot, you're a shameless liar.
And as usual, I provide the links to substantiate my argument, and you post your 100% fact-free opinion, lies, smears and innuendo.
Thus, you lose again, liar.
It sucks to be you, Pinocchio.
The lying liar lies, "...How many murders have been done in the last ten years by people who are not truthers?...Seems to me that non-truthers are more likely to commit murder than truthers are."
Comparing apples to oranges idiot?
Your idiotic comment has no validity. If you want to lend validity to your bullshit, SHOW US HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN MURDERED BY DEBUNKERS.
You can't?
Then STFU, liar.
Once again, you FAIL, 'tard.
The lying liar lies, "I'm sure it's not news to you that you're not very bright."
Yeah, that's why you compare apples-to-oranges. In fact, you just proved why your bogus "statistics" can't be trusted.
You're an idiot.
The comment section is there. There are no comments in it.
There are no "debunkers", UtterFail. There are just lying PeeDunkers like you.
The lying liar lies, "...The comment section is there. There are no comments in it."
More 100% fact-free bullshit, liar?
As usual, I provide the links to substantiate my argument, and you provide your worthless, unverifiable 100% fact-free dissembling.
FAIL
This thread (and others) proves that you're a liar. Do you honestly believe that ANYONE who is familiar with the lies you spew will believe your dissembling?
If so, you're delusional.
The lying liar lies, "..."There are just lying PeeDunkers like you.""
Screaming "liar" without providing evidence to substantiate your dissembling isn't particularly convincing, liar.
As always, all you have are lies, smears and innuendo.
FAIL.
Your lies don't substantiate your argument, UtterFool.
Squeal, squeal, squeal.
Anything but substantiate your argument. Right, liar?
Oh, that's right! Lies, smears and innuendo can't be substantiated. My bad.
My links will always trump your dissembling.
Once again, you FAIL, liar.
The lying liar lies, "...Your lies don't substantiate your argument, UtterFool."
I don't lie. That's your specialty, Pinocchio. And my links prove I'm telling the truth. On the other hand, your continued inability to substantiate your argument proves that you're a liar.
Once again, you FAIL, bullshitter.
When your links don't say what you claim, they trump only you.
Linking to your own empty claims proves nothing. If you had half an education you would know that, Fool.
That's right, liar, insist that you're telling the truth while the evidence stares you straight in your lying ferret face. Anything but substantiate your argument. Right, liar?
I think everyone knows who tells the truth and who's the real liar. And we all know that we'll find the liar between your chair and your keyboard.
So keep making empty claims while you steadfastly refuse to provide evidence to support your "argument" (ie., smears, lies and innuendo).
So when do you plan to show us all the coldblooded murders that you allege were committed by "debunkers"? Or will you cite more of your bogus, 100% fact-free "statistics"?
Arrogant, stupid, dishonest to the core and a gasbag. What a charming combination.
Once again, you FAIL, gasbag.
David, why should I pissed off that I don't know where you work? Why would I want to know where you work? You're just another liar on this board. Why should I have any interest?
Because you wouldn't be looking for me on Google. Having trouble finding a David Banner that's an architect? LOL!
Drawing up blueprints and understanding them is no great shakes. Any idiot can do that. I learned to do that in eighth grade.
The only thing you learned in 8th grade is girls. Don't sit there feeding us BS about you understanding blueprints, you were too busy looking at the girls in your classes and fantasizing about them naked.
And what significance do you ascribe to the 1975 WTC fire? That's just more empty posturing on your part.
Empty posturing? Really Brian! I think the 1975 fire in WTC1 has a lot to do with NIST being able to prevent such fires from happening in steel high rise buildings. I bet you're silly ass didn't know that at that time both WTC buildings had no sprinkler system. They relied on the fire protection foam and they managed to put the fire out in about 3 hours on 6 floors.
So don't sit there talking BS about the fires being so "small" or that they were "oxygen starved". The 1975 fire proves that fire can move from floor to floor.
Brian keeps calling me a "liar" but fails to actually produce any kind of link nor source proving that I'm a "liar".
Maybe if I sent my attorney to the Palo Alto Police and demand an investigation into Brian's mental state. I know some California judges who'd personally put Brian away in a State Hospital.
How would you like to stay in a State Hospital Brian? It's run by Government employees, the ones you really hate.
UtterFail, the liar is you. There are no comments on the alternet article.
http://www.alternet.org/comments/story/140351/how_a_conspiracy_theorist_who_thought_i_was_the_zodiac_killer_almost_ruined_my_life#disqus_thread
That's right, liar, insist your're telling the truth while you utterly fail to substantiate your argument.
All you've managed to do is give everyone the same link I've posted to this thread a dozen times -- and you're so insane that you think you've given us something new.
All you have are lies, smears and innuendo.
And you're not going to bury the proof against you in a avalanche of liespam, scumbag.
Perry Logan has a long history at SLC. E.g.,
In Response to Perry Logan, dated 30 May 2006.
Perry Logan's Words of Wisdom, dated 16 August 2006.
"I have had conspiracy people threaten me countless times (though, like their right-wing brothers, they're too chickensh*t to do anything). One Truther wrote poison-pen letters to various organizations around town, accusing me of various imaginary crimes.
"After all, I'm obviously a government agent, so it's OK to smear my reputation, right?
"Another Truther punished me by making obscene YouTube videos falsely accusing me of being gay. Satiric videos would have been OK. But these clips were just semi-pornographic attacks on my character, tinged with homophobia, and I was able to get YouTube to remove them.
"Take it from me--you pay a high price for daring to disagree with these pr*cks. -- Perry Logan
The truth is that "truthers" routinely harass and stalk their political opponents -- and murder is not beyond the truthers" either.
Since you're a stalker and you associate with murderers you should be treated accordingly. After all, we're known by the company we keep.
You made your bed, scumbag, now you lay in it.
David, do you have a point? Or is your blather just an effort to give the simple-minded the impression that you do?
Troofer body count = 14
E.g., [1] Sean Fitzgerald, who stabbed his father, Dr. Edward Fitzgerald, to death while his mom slept in the same bed;
[2] Curtiss Maynard, who murdered his wife, Melissa Meza, 34, before killing himself;
[3] James W. Von Brunn, who murdered Holocaust Museum security guard Stephen Tyrone Johns, 39;
[4] Kurt Sonnenfeld, who allegedly murdered his wife, Nancy Sonnenfeld, 36. Today, Sonnenfeld is a fugitive who lives in Argentina. He is wanted for murder by the Denver police and the FBI;
[5] Richard Poplawski, a rabid 9/11 troofer and devoted Alex Jones fan who killed three Pittsburgh, PA cops;
[6] Jared Loughner, who murdered six people in an Arizona shooting spree;
[7] John Patrick Bedell, the Pentagon shooter, who was killed after wounding two police officers;
[8] Byron Williams, who instigated a shootout with the California Highway Patrol but failed to kill anyone;
and [9] Philip Marshall who murdered his two teenaged children and his dog in cold blood before he turned the weapon on himself.
That's a total of 14 Americans who perished at the hands of 9/11 "truthers".
You scum, "snug,bug."
UtterFail, my link shows that you lied. It says nothing about 9/11, and there are no comments.
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Non-toofer bodycount 2002-2012-- 160,000
Shit for brains squeals, "...my link shows that you lied. It says nothing about 9/11, and there are no comments"
Your link doesn't show anything. And your "embellishments" (ie., lies) don't make your case at all.
Since you associate with murderers and are yourself a sex stalker, it is logical to conclude that you lie constantly.
The truth is that "truthers" routinely stalk and harass their political opponents -- and the troofers have murdered 14 innocent Americans in cold blood..
"I have had conspiracy people threaten me countless times (though, like their right-wing brothers, they're too chickensh*t to do anything). One Truther wrote poison-pen letters to various organizations around town, accusing me of various imaginary crimes.
"After all, I'm obviously a government agent, so it's OK to smear my reputation, right?
"Another Truther punished me by making obscene YouTube videos falsely accusing me of being gay. Satiric videos would have been OK. But these clips were just semi-pornographic attacks on my character, tinged with homophobia, and I was able to get YouTube to remove them.
"Take it from me--you pay a high price for daring to disagree with these pr*cks. -- Perry Logan
Perry Logan has a long history at SLC. E.g.,
In Response to Perry Logan, dated 30 May 2006.
Perry Logan's Words of Wisdom, dated 16 August 2006.
I originally posted Perry Logan's comment to SLC on 17 July 2010.
You can lie until you're blue in the face, goat fucker, but the links I provide prove you're a liar.
The lying liar lies, "...Non-toofer bodycount 2002-2012-- 160,000"
We've already been over this -- you brain dead moron.
You are comparing apples-to-oranges.
Your idiotic comment has no validity. If you want to lend validity to your bullshit, SHOW US HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN MURDERED BY DEBUNKERS.
You can't?
Then STFU, liar.
Is it any wonder that your bogus "statistics" are transparent nonsense? Considering the source (an idiot and a liar), probably not.
Once again, you FAIL, 'tard.
Having trouble finding a David Banner that's an architect? LOL!
Yeah, that's the comedy gold in this thread. The dumbass never even realized he was investigating an obviously fake name until you flat-out told him.
Then he immediately shifted into "you're just an anonymous internet poster" mode, not recognizing any contradiction with his inability to find an engineer with the fake name.
This guy's ability to be wrong is legendary. He finds ways to be stupid that I couldn't even imagine. He's a real-life Bloody Stupid Johnson.
David, do you have a point? Or is your blather just an effort to give the simple-minded the impression that you do?
Yes I have a point to make.
You just called yourself simple-minded.
That was the point.
Triterope,
I know, it's still comedy gold cause he has no clue who I am and only knows my profession.
He Googled my name and couldn't look for a David Bay Banner any where. It was funny to see him ask you and others on here if you did the same thing.
He still hasn't gotten the point when you said "Oh my God".
I'm still laughing at that.
Yeah Brian, look up David Bay Banner as an architect. I'd love to see what kind of results you get. LMAO.
Now, before Brian goes off looking for architects named Bruce Wayne, Steve Rogers, or Peter Parker, I'd like to note the sub-topic in this thread:
I claimed Brian said that he thought interceptors should have tipped the wings of the hijacked jetliners.
Brian called me a liar.
GuitarBill linked to all of Brian's posts suggesting that jetliners should have rammed or tipped the hijacked aircraft.
Brian drops the subject.
.....
Have a good weekend, Brian!
GuitarBill linked to all of Brian's posts suggesting that jetliners should have rammed or tipped the hijacked aircraft.
Brian drops the subject.
So Ian, what makes you think that I'm a liar?
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I could understand missing a cultural reference. But how defective does Brian's brain have to be to not notice the ton of "Incredible Hulk" items that must have been in his search results? I googled "Peter Parker" just for S&Gs, and the first 18 results were all Spiderman in some form.
The man is so oblivious that I don't understand how he functions. With so little attention to detail, how does he cross the street, for example? I genuinely wonder.
And if I may make a comment on the original story, there were some really funny responses on Deadspin:
Can you really blame Pete Carroll? Letting Bush take the fall hasn't failed him yet.
Why are we so quick to dismiss Pete's perspective on this? He's in as good a position as anyone to talk about disasters involving Jets.
After the way he benefitted from the replacement refs, Pete Carroll shouldn't be too concerned about false flags.
That's pretty admirable, actually. Most USC coaches speak significantly less than 82% truth.
Also, this hilarious diagram.
UtterFail, it's a hoot to see you stamping your little pig feet.
Your alternet link did not say what you claimed. It said nothing about Perry Logan, and nothing about 9/11. All the spam in the world will not change the fact.
Yeah, because what GuitarBill said about Perry Logan is really the key issue here. Buffoon.
Guitar Bill lied about the contents of his link. In any discussion with liars, the key issue is their status as liars. Anything else is a mere distraction from their status as liars.
This is not a discussion with liars. It's a discussion with people too stupid to realize they're investigating an obviously fake name.
I could understand missing a cultural reference. But how defective does Brian's brain have to be to not notice the ton of "Incredible Hulk" items that must have been in his search results? I googled "Peter Parker" just for S&Gs, and the first 18 results were all Spiderman in some form.
Neither here nor there, but there was a guy who pitched for the Montreal Expos in the 70s and 80s named Steve Rogers. You have to scroll quite a ways in Google image results before you find him instead of Captain America.
And I'll just note here that Brian just ignores that we caught him lying about whether he thought interceptors could have tipped or rammed the hijacked planes.
Since I have to go be social for the rest of the weekend, I'll just post Brian's response myself.
"Ian, you lie and lie and lie and lie and lie"
UtterFail, as of 2006, 30 million American adults could be considered 9/11 truthers. The number is probably far greater now. You list a dozen murders for these 30 million people over ten years. In the same time period, 270 million non-truthers have committed 160,000 murders--13,000 times as many as the truthers. Non-truthers murder their fellow citizens at a rate of 5925 per million (over ten years). Truthers murder at a rate of 0.4 per million.
Thus non-truthers murder people at a rate 1,481,200 percent of that of the truthers.
Since the number of "debunkers" is so small, a couple of hundred at most, their crime statistics are meaningless.
If you had half an education you wouldn't be so confused.
TR, any discussion with Ian or GutterBall is a discussion with liars.
"David Banner" was not an obviously fake name to me because I'm not familiar with homoerotic TV programs. What was obvious was that there was no evidence that David Banner was an architect.
Yes, I remember Steve Rogers. And Bill Gullickson and Scott Sanderson and Hal Dues and Randy St. Claire, and Charlie Lea (for one year) and that lot. I always liked the Expos and their weird "elb" hat. I hated it when they moved to Washington.
The lying liar lies, "...Guitar Bill lied about the contents of his link."
No, you lie about the contents of the link. I also proved that Perry Logan is a real person who was a MAJOR contributor to SLC as far back as 2006.
In Response to Perry Logan, dated 30 May 2006.
Perry Logan's Words of Wisdom, dated 16 August 2006.
I originally posted Perry Logan's comment to SLC on 17 July 2010.
You're such an idiot that you completely missed the "David Banner" ruse. Why should ANYONE trust such a fool with a matter of such grave import as 9/11? Obviously, you couldn't find your @ss with a hunting dog and a compass.
You're out of your league, clown.
Now go lurk in the bushes alongside Serra Street on the Stanford University campus and flash your junk at the co-eds -- you freak.
The lying liar lies, "...TR, any discussion with Ian or GutterBall is a discussion with liars."
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
I've proven you to be liar at least 20 times in this thread alone. Who are you to call anyone a "liar"? You've never proven that I lie -- NOT ONCE.
Every word that emanates from that infected trap of yours involves either a bald-faced lie, half-truth, smear or innuendo. You don't have the moral authority to call anyone a "liar."
Tell us more about "tipping" airliners and Kamikaze civil air defense tactics -- you fucking nut.
"David Banner" was not an obviously fake name to me because I'm not familiar with homoerotic TV programs.
And I've already said why that doesn't matter. Ian even repeated it. In bold face.
What was obvious was that there was no evidence that David Banner was an architect.
Yes, it is obvious. What you fail to recognize is the implications of that obvious point. It doesn't prove that some Blogger poster isn't really an engineer (which you are apparently STILL trying to argue). It proves that you're a world-class idiot, because you fell for an elementary-school playground prank.
You're obsessed with winning irrelevant points, and you don't notice you're making a gigantic fool of yourself. That's a level of obliviousness I can't even comprehend.
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Ian, jew told me that jew didn't have a girlfriend, but July to me, JULYER!!!!!
Triterope wrote, "...Yes, it is obvious. What you fail to recognize is the implications of that obvious point. It doesn't prove that some Blogger poster isn't really an engineer (which you are apparently STILL trying to argue). It proves that you're a world-class idiot, because you fell for an elementary-school playground prank...You're obsessed with winning irrelevant points, and you don't notice you're making a gigantic fool of yourself. That's a level of obliviousness I can't even comprehend."
Good point. Are you aware that Perry Logan is a figment of my imagination? Ask SLC's resident Sherlock Holmes, "snug.bug, (aka, Brain Good)," he'll tell you.
UtterFail, you lied about the contents of the alternet link, and then you lied about your lie.
The most stupidest comment I've ever read from any nut job out there:
"I do not want to take it to court I want to have a real investigation" - MrSmedleyB from YouTube.
"David Banner" was not an obviously fake name to me because I'm familiar with homoerotic TV programs.
Yes, yes you are indeed.
What was obvious was that there was no evidence that David Banner was an architect.
David Banner was originally studying nanites to produce a super solider like Captain America. He tested it on himself and he turned into the Incredible Hulk. As far as me being an architect, I am what my profession allows me to be.
How about you Brian, what is your qualifications about you being a researcher? Did you major in American History? If not then why lie about being a researcher?
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"Most stupidest"? Really? That one's going to embarrass even your dumb friends here.
"Most stupidest"? Really? That one's going to embarrass even your dumb friends here.
You should be embarrassed that you've been duped by yours truly into believing that David Banner was an actual person. No doubt there are people out there with that name but I find it hilarious that you would even bother Googling up "David Banner Architect" without even or remotely thinking about the name first.
It's safe to say that you do jump to conclusions even after you lie about it.
Excuse me while I bask knowing that I completely and utterly destroyed you with an "Incredible Hulk" reference.
Googling up "David Banner Architect" without even remotely thinking about the name first.
...and without noticing that the results would have revealed the joke to anyone with eight functioning brain cells.
I never heard of David Banner. Never had any reason to be interested in the Fabulous Hulk.
Confusing knowledge of trivia with intelligence is dumb.
If I didn't know better, I'd swear "snug.bug" was some kind of chatbot. He just says the same things over and over and over, occasionally latching onto a key word from a response, while ignoring huge sections of meaningful context.
Confusing knowledge of trivia with intelligence is dumb.
Thank God you don't play Jeapordy.
I know what illness Brian is suffering from. The dreaded
Asperger's Syndrome
Look it up and that's what Brian has.
And Brian, you do have it, don't deny it.
Here's what Asperger's Syndrome does to a person that's affected by it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWY3ntr3sdI
Can Brian truly relate to the guy in the video?
Did I hit the head on the nail with the Asperger's Syndrome or something? Brian's not talking.
You think "Jeapordy" is a measure of intelligence, and you claim you're an architect.
You think "Jeapordy" is a measure of intelligence, and you claim you're an architect.
Jeapordy allows contestants to think about a lot of subjects. You on the other hand have no patience to go on a show like that and answer any of the questions in the right way. If 9/11 were the subject you'd be losing all your money and you'd be broke.
Let's talk about you suffering from Asperger's Syndrome Brian.
Come on JAQass, don't get all scared cause I mentioned Asperger's Syndrome to ya. Unless you really don't want to it's ok, that'll just prove that you do suffer from AS.
There are 4150 David Banners on Linkin. Lot's of engineers. I can't say how many wear stretching purple pants though.
Lot's of engineers?
How many architect's?
UtterFail, as of 2006, 30 million American adults could be considered 9/11 truthers. The number is probably far greater now.
This is part of Brian's "invisible" series.
You see, in Brian's deranged universe, there are invisible elevator repairmen who planted invisible explosives that destroyed the WTC.
And fighting for the Truther cause are invisible widows with questions, invisible architects and engineers who are calling for a new investigation, and invisible Americans who agree with Brian that the WTC destruction was an inside job.
Here in the universe the rest of us live in, a typical Truther rally attracts about 10 people, and most of the paranoid nutcases who were interested in it have moved on to newer, more exciting Obama conspiracy theories.
I guess it should be noted that Brian also has invisible friends, an invisible job as a "consultant" and an invisible stylist who says that the homeless mullet is the hottest haircut right now.
Lot's of engineers?
How many architect's?
OMG, not another Stundie?
Ian, "invisible" is your construct. There is nothing invisible about 80 elevator mechanics who left the WTC on 9/11 even though they knew that people were trapped inside elevators because of interlock devices these elevator mechanics had themselves installed. See USAToday if you don't believe me.
There is nothing invisible about 9/11 widows atill seeking answers to their questions.
And there is nothing invisible about 36% of Americans saying in 2006 that it was very likely or somewhat likely that federal officials either assisted in the 9/11 attacks or took no action to prevent them because they wanted the United States to go to war in the Middle East.
Of course that was 7 years ago, before the architects and engineers for truth started organizing, and there is nothing invisible about 1960 architects and engineers putting their professional reputations on the line by demanding new investigations.
Hulk, the stundie is yours. The quality of your punctuation reflects the quality of your thinking.
Hulk, the stundie is yours. The quality of your punctuation reflects the quality of your thinking.
And you looking up the character name of a Comic and TV super hero is the quality of your researching skills.
You've been duped by me Brian. You deserved it though cause you suffer from Asperger's Syndrome.
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I was never duped by you. I never believed you were an architect, and I never believed you were named "David Banner".
You dupe yourself with your delusions of competence.
Ian, "invisible" is your construct. There is nothing invisible about 80 elevator mechanics who left the WTC on 9/11 even though they knew that people were trapped inside elevators because of interlock devices these elevator mechanics had themselves installed. See USAToday if you don't believe me.
There is nothing invisible about 9/11 widows atill seeking answers to their questions.
And there is nothing invisible about 36% of Americans saying in 2006 that it was very likely or somewhat likely that federal officials either assisted in the 9/11 attacks or took no action to prevent them because they wanted the United States to go to war in the Middle East.
Of course that was 7 years ago, before the architects and engineers for truth started organizing, and there is nothing invisible about 1960 architects and engineers putting their professional reputations on the line by demanding new investigations.
Like I said, Brian believes in invisible widows, explosives, architects and engineers, elevator repairmen, and truthers among the general population.
If he would just look around for a little while instead of fantasizing about invisible people, he'd realize that there are no truthers left.
I was never duped by you. I never believed you were an architect, and I never believed you were named "David Banner".
You dupe yourself with your delusions of competence.
Poor Brian. He's so stupid that he went looking for a comic book character's architectural credentials!
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!
Ian, there is nothing invisible about widows, explosives, architects and engineers, elevator repairmen, and truthers.
You live in a fantasy world.
Ian, there is nothing invisible about widows, explosives, architects and engineers, elevator repairmen, and truthers.
This is true, however, your "widows with questions" and your "elevator repairmen who planted explosives" and your "architects and engineers who want a new investigation" and your "36% of Americans" are all invisible. You made them up because you're a liar and a lunatic who has no job and lives with his parents.
I was never duped by you. I never believed you were an architect, and I never believed you were named "David Banner".
Jesus H. Christ IT HAPPENED RIGHT IN THIS GODDAMN THREAD YOU NUTCASE.
I actually like the real David Banner when he's angry.
"Ian, "invisible" is your construct. There is nothing invisible about 80 elevator mechanics who left the WTC on 9/11 even though they knew that people were trapped inside elevators because of interlock devices these elevator mechanics had themselves installed."
Which is what made Willie Rodriguez a hero for NOT RUNNING AWAY and staying to help.
The locking devices were upgrades to comply with city code.
"And there is nothing invisible about 36% of Americans saying in 2006 that it was very likely or somewhat likely that federal officials either assisted in the 9/11 attacks or took no action to prevent them because they wanted the United States to go to war in the Middle East. "
Nobody give a shit about that 36% of Americans. They are likely the same idiots who are all upset about the "revelation" that the NSA was monitoring just about everything, even though the NSA told Congress they were planning to do it and Congress said "cool".
Afghanistan is not in the middle east, and technically we were still an a state of hostilities with Iraq from the time we signed the cease-fire in 1991.
Cease-fire means "stop shooting", and also means if one side starts shooting again it's on like Donkey Kong.
That 36% of Americans are utter dipshits should be no surprise to anyone with a Twitter feed, or a public transit pass.
The fact you throw this worthless statistic are just makes you more dumb than they are.
Your brittle rationalizations betray your muscle-headed ignorance--the only way to defeat facts is to try to make them seem irrelevant.
Look at the names of those who signed the 9/11 Truth statement. Dipshits?
I was never duped by you. I never believed you were an architect, and I never believed you were named "David Banner".
Actually I am an architect, but you failed the task of actually looking for a real architect under that name.
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You dupe yourself with your delusions of competence.
Whose got a degree in architecture? You?! Who went through college? You?!
I still can't believe I duped your ass.
You didn't dupe me. I never believed you.
Your brittle rationalizations betray your muscle-headed ignorance--the only way to defeat facts is to try to make them seem irrelevant.
My, such squealing!
Poor Brian. He thinks he has "facts" on his side. Brian, the only fact is that you're so stupid, you went looking for the architectural credentials of a comic book character. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!
Look at the names of those who signed the 9/11 Truth statement. Dipshits?
Yes they are. They signed the 9/11 truth statement, therefore they by definition have their heads up their asses.
Whose got a degree in architecture? You?! Who went through college? You?!
Brian failed out of San Jose State. He told us himself on this blog. Now he denies it hysterically because we all make fun of him for it.
So it will be with looking for David Banner, architect. Once we started mocking him for it, he got all hysterical and denied it.
So, in addition to being mentally ill and having no grasp of humor, sarcasm, or irony, Brian is also a pathological liar. That's why he now claims that he beat Willie Rodriguez in a debate, when in reality the debate never happened because Brian ran away squealing and crying from it.
You didn't dupe me. I never believed you.
"Most architects under sixty seem to have some kind of internet presence, but I can't find any architect named David Banner." -- Brian, this thread
"Can you find an architect named David Banner on the internet, TR?" -- Brian, this thread
"Can YOU find an architect named David Banner on the internet? I didn't think so." -- Brian, this thread
"IOW, TR, you can't find any architect named David Banner." -- Brian, this thread
"I said I couldn't find any architect named David Banner on the internet. That is a fact." -- Brian, this thread
"I couldn't find any architect named David Banner on the internet." -- Brian, this thread
"What was obvious was that there was no evidence that David Banner was an architect." -- Brian, this thread
You didn't dupe me. I never believed you.
Funny how you Googled the name up and asked around in here if anyone else found a "David Banner that's an architect".
Yeah, I pretty much duped your ass into submission.
Ian, you lie as usual. The "widows with questions", the "architects and engineers who want a new investigation" and your "36% of Americans" are NOT invisible--except to you with your selective hysterical blindness.
I didn't make up any elevator repairmen, and I never said they planted explosives.
TR, I never believed David was an architect. How is reporting that there's no evidence on the internet supporting that claim an expression of belief in that claim?
Willie Rodriguez DID run away. Instead of climbing up to floors 43-88 (where, if his story is correct, hundreds of people were trapped behind locked fire exit doors) Willie took his magic Key of Hope away and went to help one man downstairs. Contrast this with Frank DeMartini and Pablo Ortiz, who were last seen deploying to help people trapped in elevators. Willie steals his glory from the dead. He'll always have to live with that--he's the famous Super Putzmann who lives with a dog named Elvis and tries to pass off a $1 bill as a $20 bill. The truthers got wise to him but you clowns never did.
The elevator interlock devices prevented the people trapped in elevator cars from getting out. The mechanics knew those devices were there, because they had installed them, and they knew how to disable them. And yet they ran away. Only one elevator mechanic died when the towers fell, and he was from another job and just happened by.
TR, on what planet does pointing out that there's no architect named David Banner on the internet constitute belief that David Banner is an architect?
Clearly the reason you guys cling to ridiculous myths about 9/11 is because you lack the ability to puzzle things out rationally.
TR, I never believed David was an architect. How is reporting that there's no evidence on the internet supporting that claim an expression of belief in that claim?
Because that's what you do, you believe anything you read or hear and take it literal. You lied about being a "researcher" also.
You are a gullible tool Brian.
Clearly the reason you guys cling to ridiculous myths about 9/11 is because you lack the ability to puzzle things out rationally.
You should talk, you think that the Incredible Hulk (David Banner) is a real person and you tried to look it up on Google.
If anyone isn't thinking rationally it's you butt breath.
You don't know the difference between doubt and belief. Were you raised in some religious cult?
" I never said they planted explosives"
So who do you think planted the explosives? Bush and Cheney? The Marines? Give us some possibilities.
You can give the possibilities as well as I. They are legion. Seems to me the Russians would be highly motivated.
Where did you get the idea that I think someone planted explosives? I never said that.
What Russians? Be more specific. And how would they get long-term access to the building without being noticed by building staff, security, office workers...?
>>>>"Where did you get the idea that I think someone planted explosives?"
Come on. Now you're just trolling.
Russians would get long-term access to the building the same way anybody else can--by renting office space and/or by winning a construction contract.
Where did you get the idea that I think someone planted explosives? I never said that, ever.
We know who was renting space in the WTC. That is all on record. Which company(s) seem suspicious to you?
Cantor Fitzgerald? Morgan Stanley? Which one do you think is really a Russian front company? Same goes for contractors. The supposed 9/11 demolition would have been a major project. Which contractors do you think are suspicious, and are made up of Russians?
If you don't think someone planted explosives, then why have you spent years(?) on this blog arguing that WTC was brought down by explosives?
Were you raised in some religious cult?
I would suspect you think you're part of some 9/11 Cult at which you were banned from participating in but still believe that you can wield the "sword of truth" and vanquish your enemies.
Sadly you are no longer part of any 9/11 group cause frankly they don't want an idiot joining their ranks who could kill someone at a moments notice.
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