Monday, July 08, 2013

Pakistani Report on bin Laden Leaked

Once more I think of Hanlon's Razor. Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. News you won't find on 911 Blogger. In fact you won't find much over there nowadays. Hello, anyone awake? Will the last person to leave the "truth" movement please turn out the lights....

Via the BBC.
Incompetence and negligence allowed Osama Bin Laden to live in Pakistan undetected for almost a decade, a leaked government report suggests.
A version of the report leaked to al-Jazeera says the killing of Bin Laden by US forces was a "criminal act of murder" ordered by the US president.
It also reveals details of the al-Qaeda leader's whereabouts and day-to-day life after fleeing Afghanistan in 2001.

117 Comments:

At 08 July, 2013 18:50, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

The NY Times has a more comprehensive write-up: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/09/world/asia/leaked-report-cites-pakistans-failings-before-us-killed-bin-laden.html?smid=fb-share

My favorite part is where bin Laden was pulled over for speeding by a Pakistani traffic cop who didn't recognize him.

...You don't need to see his identification...

 
At 08 July, 2013 20:52, Blogger Ian said...

Pakistan bungling the search for bin Laden? I'm shocked, shocked. That country always struck me as such a clean, efficient operation. The Switzerland of south Asia.

Hanlon's Razor is also something truthers should be aware of. The same government that bungled the response to Katrina (even though there were multiple days advanced warning, even though hurricanes happen every year in the gulf, even though experts had been warning of a doomsday scenario for New Orleans) apparently pulled off the most elaborate and devastating conspiracy in history without a single leak.

Yup, if you're too stupid and insane to hold down a job mopping floor, you might believe that.

 
At 09 July, 2013 08:02, Blogger snug.bug said...

Hanlon's Razor is very convenient for evil-doers who wish to disguise their evil as stupidity. Oops! Did I poison your dog? So sorry, I'm just an idiot!

How do you know that the lack of response to Katrina was not a deliberate action designed to further the neocons' ideological principle that government is inherently incompetent?

You guys are so quick to rush to judgment. It must be very boring to know everything and to see your knowledge confirmed everywhere you look.

 
At 09 July, 2013 08:16, Blogger snug.butt.plug said...

You guys are so quick to rush to judgment. It must be very boring to know everything and to see your knowledge confirmed everywhere you look.

"I self-critique constantly, RGT. That's why I'm never wrong." -- snug.bug

Ian, what makes you think that I'm a sex predator?

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At 09 July, 2013 08:28, Blogger snug.butt.plug said...

Yup, if you're too stupid and insane to hold down a job mopping floor, you might believe that.

It's better to watch gay porn and be thought of as gay than to listen to Justin Bieber and remove all doubt.

Ian, what makes you think that I'm a sex predator?

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At 09 July, 2013 09:42, Blogger snug.bug said...

ButtGlug, Kevin Barrett is a liar.

 
At 09 July, 2013 10:46, Blogger Jon Gold said...

I posted it several places on Facebook and am in the process of reading it. Assholes.

 
At 09 July, 2013 11:19, Blogger Alec said...

You post articles prior to reading them? That's not exactly a good thing...

By the way, how's it going posting twoof-related garbage to a diminishing population? I know the twoof movement never exactly was giant, but now it's damn near nonexistent...

 
At 09 July, 2013 11:23, Blogger snug.butt.plug said...

ButtGlug, Kevin Barrett is a Ph.D and Fullbright scholar, so my Ph.D envy drives me to attack Kevin Barrett with non sequiturs and hate spam.

So Jon, what makes you think that I'm a sex predator?

By the way Jon, are you aware that gay midgets come out of the cabinet?

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At 09 July, 2013 12:54, Blogger snug.bug said...

ButtGlug, Barrett is no scholar.

 
At 09 July, 2013 15:07, Blogger Ian said...

How do you know that the lack of response to Katrina was not a deliberate action designed to further the neocons' ideological principle that government is inherently incompetent?

Yes, Paul Wolfowitz and Irving Kristol were big advocates that the government do nothing in order to tear it down, right Brian? That was in PNAC too.

It's hilarious to read the mentally ill babbling of an unemployed janitor who lives with his parents, especially when he uses big-boy words like "neocon" that he doesn't understand in the least.

Also, Brian, I don't think anyone would trust you to take care of their dog. You're so stupid and mentally ill that you can't even hold down a job mopping floors! Nobody would trust you not to poison their dog.

 
At 09 July, 2013 15:09, Blogger Ian said...

I posted it several places on Facebook and am in the process of reading it. Assholes.

Isn't it time to give this stuff a rest and move onto more worthwhile pursuits, Jon? I mean, there's nobody left in this idiotic cult but you and Brian Good. Do you really want to be associate with such a loser?

 
At 09 July, 2013 17:51, Blogger Jon Gold said...

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At 09 July, 2013 17:52, Blogger Jon Gold said...

The movement was "big enough" for the corporate media to do its best to destroy it by focusing on people like Jim Fetzer, Kevin Barrett, Webster Tarpley, etc... to paint the whole as crazy as they are, and "big enough" for idiots like Pat and James to start sites like this. Have a nice night.

 
At 09 July, 2013 17:55, Blogger James B. said...

The whole is crazy. And one blog dedicated to a social movement isn't that big. I am sure the Justin Beiber crowd is larger.

 
At 09 July, 2013 17:59, Blogger Jon Gold said...

Right. Demanding accountability and justice (not the kind found at GITMO) is "crazy." Oh right, you only focus on those with slick phrases like "9/11 was an inside job" or "WTC7 was a Controlled Demolition." W/E.

 
At 09 July, 2013 18:32, Blogger snug.bug said...

James B., what's crazy about the widows trying to get their 273 questions answered? What's crazy about trying to get an investigation of Ground Zero that acknowledges all the evidence and examines all the questions and remains consistent with the princples of physics and of scientific inquiry? NIST claims they did not even analyze the collapses of the towers.

 
At 09 July, 2013 18:50, Blogger snug.butt.plug said...

James B., what's crazy about the widows trying to get their 273 loaded questions answered? What's crazy about trying to get an investigation of Ground Zero that acknowledges only the evidence we claim is evidence and examines all the questions, because in trooferland questions are evidence, and remains consistent with the principles of pseudo-physics and of pseudo-scientific inquiry? NIST claims they did not even analyze the collapses of the towers, when every competent engineer tells us that it's pointless to "analyze the collapses" because you can't "analyze the collapses," you can only determine the point of collapse initiation. We demand a pseudo-scientific investigation that supports our predetermined conclusions.

"I love Justin Bieber!" Jon eat a snickers. You're gay when you're hungry.

James B., what makes you think that I'm a sex predator?

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At 09 July, 2013 19:03, Blogger Alec said...

It's tiny enough that the Loosers can't sell shirts saying "x% of Americans think 9/11 was an inside job" anymore, because even the Zogby polls, which overstate the size of the twoof movement, can't give them any more than low single digit percentages. It's so tiny that most of the debunking sites have closed up shop, because there's not really anything to debunk anymore -- the 9/11 twoof websites are just as moribund as the movement itself.. It's tiny enough that twoof "rallies" can't get any more than a small number of attendees.

It is interesting, though, when people blame "the system" for the fact that their ideas don't stand up to factual investigation. When climate change deniers or creationists can't get their studies published because they are bullshit, it's obviously not the fact that their studies are wrong that causes them to not be published -- no, it is obviously the evil scientists that are suppressing the "movement." When homeopaths complain that doctors recognize that their "cures" are useless, it is obvious (to the homeopaths, at least) that the reason more doctors don't support their cures is because the evil pharmaceutical companies are paying them off (how you pay off doctors in a double blind study is beyond me).

Similarly, when twoofers don't get media attention because their beliefs represent nothing more than a stinking pile of horse shit, the reason for this is OBVIOUSLY that all the structural engineers and "big media" heads in the world are all in agreement to crush the movement, not because the members of the movement have a frighteningly tedious grasp on reality.

 
At 09 July, 2013 20:16, Blogger Alec said...

You don't demand accountability. You demand to be told that you are correct, so you can actually feel that you have actually done something worthwhile in the last decade of your life. Twoofers ignore dozens of studies, many of them by private, unbiased groups, that indicate that the twin towers fell due to two aircraft piloted by Arab hijackers, but every time a new study is released, twoofers plug their ears, refuse the evidence presented to them, and begin screaming "facts" that are either downright false or completely meaningless (or both). Twoofers don't want to discover "the truth" -- they desperately want to be right about something other people ridicule them for, so they can actually feel good about themselves.

The more I think about it, the more twooferism seems like a really bad religious cult. They have a very simple "message" to follow (9/11 was an inside job), they religiously spout this message despite it been proven wrong, they view those who do not believe in their religion to be evil heathens who are beneath contempt, they have a godlike mesiah who spreads "the word" at every possibility (Alex Jones), they have an evil, Satan like creature who they view as their chief enemy and the source of all evil (George Bush/Dick Cheney), they have another group of people they believe to be the minions of this evil figure and their perpetual enemies in their quest for the twoof (the Joooooooooooooooos!!!!), and they have the concept of a long and difficult struggle /epic battle that will end with them being delivered a "promised land" of sorts -- a struggle to convince everyone of the twoof, of course with the joos/illuminati/NWO persecuting them all the way, and a "promised land" where they convict and execute the evildoers they are convinced are behind all suffering in the world, and live in a world free of the NWO and their evil minions, the jooooos.

So that's what I'm going to call this new religion from now on. Twooferism.

 
At 10 July, 2013 04:29, Blogger Ian said...

The movement was "big enough" for the corporate media to do its best to destroy it by focusing on people like Jim Fetzer, Kevin Barrett, Webster Tarpley, etc... to paint the whole as crazy as they are, and "big enough" for idiots like Pat and James to start sites like this. Have a nice night.

"Was". Yeah, the truthers had their 15 minutes back when "Loose Change" came out, but that's all over. Bush is no longer in the White House, so the entire motivation for 9/11 truth, hatred of Bush, is gone. Now, naturally, the new hot conspiracy theories are all based on hatred of Obama.

Right. Demanding accountability and justice (not the kind found at GITMO) is "crazy." Oh right, you only focus on those with slick phrases like "9/11 was an inside job" or "WTC7 was a Controlled Demolition." W/E.

So what accountability are you demanding, Jon? If you want investigations into torture at black sites under the Bush administration, I'm all for that. It doesn't have anything to do with 9/11, and whether invisible spray-on thermite was used to destroy the WTC.

 
At 10 July, 2013 04:31, Blogger Ian said...

The more I think about it, the more twooferism seems like a really bad religious cult.

"Seems"? It's exactly like a bad religious cult. Think of all the schisms that have gone on, and the excommunication of heretics (no planers, CITers, death-ray beams, etc.)

Plus, it attracts the kind of losers and people who can't fit into society that religious cults always attract. Look at Brian Good.

Speaking of which...

 
At 10 July, 2013 04:35, Blogger Ian said...

James B., what's crazy about the widows trying to get their 273 loaded questions answered?

Nobody cares about your "widows".

What's crazy about trying to get an investigation of Ground Zero that acknowledges all the evidence and examines all the questions and remains consistent with the princples of physics and of scientific inquiry? NIST claims they did not even analyze the collapses of the towers.

We already had this investigation. It's accepted in the scientific community. You're a mentally ill unemployed janitor, so nobody cares what you think of the investigation.

Thanks for proving James' point, Brian. The truth movement has nothing left except for the paranoid fantasies of losers who still live with their parents at age 60.

 
At 10 July, 2013 14:33, Blogger snug.bug said...

Ian, you continue to lie about the investigations. The 9/11 Commission report only answered 27 of the widows' 300 questions.

The NIST reports ignored the ten essential mysteries of the towers' collapses, and failed to fulfil their basic objective of explaining "why and how" the towers collapsed. NIST even claims they did not analyze the collapses.

Such lame reports may be acceptable to a failed hairdresser like you, but they're not acceptable to anyone who cares about maintaining a democracy.

 
At 10 July, 2013 15:22, Blogger snug.butt.plug said...

Such lame reports may be acceptable to a failed hairdresser like you, but they're not acceptable to anyone who cares about maintaining a democracy.

A lot of people think Brian is Cointelpro- although I don't, but I think he does "behave" that way and should be getting a stipend from whatever division in the government that in charge of neutralizing dissent. -- Carol Brouillet, 12 April 2010.

So Ian, what makes you think that I'm a liar?

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At 10 July, 2013 15:34, Blogger snug.bug said...

No one ever told me that I was Cointelpro. Last time I saw Barrett he wanted a hug. I said "I don't hug bigots".

Kevin Barrett is a liar, a bigot, and an incompetent scholar--and he blames me for his misfortunes after I pointed that out.

 
At 10 July, 2013 15:43, Blogger snug.butt.plug said...

We already had this investigation. It's accepted in the scientific community. You're a mentally ill unemployed janitor, so nobody cares what you think of the investigation.

"People in Sacramento were shocked when Brian came and leafletted outside of the library where Kevin Barrett spoke on Friday night, but they were even more shocked when he showed up to leaflet in front of the private home where Kevin gave his 2nd talk. That event was also a potluck, and I went with a local organizer and Kevin's wife and we were a bit late- it started at 5 pm. They had already contacted the police and it was legal for Brian to leaflet on the sidewalk where he stood from before 5 pm to probably 1 am in the morning (when it was freezing cold)...People felt that he was mentally disturbed." -- Carol Brouillet, 12 April 2010.

Ian, what makes you think that I'm a sex predator?

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At 10 July, 2013 17:12, Blogger snug.bug said...

People in Sacramento should have been shocked to see that the speaker who was advertised as an expert on 9/11 and a peace activist was actually a liar, a bigot, and an advocate of violence who had recently threatened to burn down the Governor's Mansion in the very town where he was speaking.

Say, you wouldn't be trying to distract from the fact that Willie Rodriguez ran away squealing and crying after I proved that his hero story was a lie, would you?

 
At 10 July, 2013 18:26, Blogger snug.butt.plug said...

Also, Brian, I don't think anyone would trust you to take care of their dog. You're so stupid and mentally ill that you can't even hold down a job mopping floors! Nobody would trust you not to poison their dog.

Ian, what makes you think that I ran squealing and crying from Willie's challenge to debate?

Willie doesn't have the guts to debate me--not here, not in person, not anywhere on the internet, and not on Carol's program. That's because he knows better than anyone that he's a liar and a fraud...I offered a debate taking place on Carol's radio program. The reason for this is that Willie lies, and he hides behind Carol's skirts, and he would surely raise untrue ad hominem attacks on me with no regard for the potential damage to Carol. So she needs to have edit power over the debate.

Ian, what makes you think that I'm a sex predator?

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At 10 July, 2013 18:37, Blogger snug.bug said...

How does that change the fact that Willie Rodriguez ran away squealing and crying after I proved that his hero story was a lie?

 
At 10 July, 2013 18:57, Blogger Ian said...

Ian, you continue to lie about the investigations. The 9/11 Commission report only answered 27 of the widows' 300 questions.

Nobody cares about your "widows".

The NIST reports ignored the ten essential mysteries of the towers' collapses, and failed to fulfil their basic objective of explaining "why and how" the towers collapsed. NIST even claims they did not analyze the collapses.

Nobody cares if a mentally ill unemployed janitor thinks the towers collapses were "mysterious".

Such lame reports may be acceptable to a failed hairdresser like you, but they're not acceptable to anyone who cares about maintaining a democracy.

I'm a successful businessman, not a failed hairdresser. You live in a fantasy world.

 
At 10 July, 2013 18:58, Blogger Ian said...

How does that change the fact that Willie Rodriguez ran away squealing and crying after I proved that his hero story was a lie?

Nobody cares about your homosexual lust for Rodriguez.

 
At 10 July, 2013 19:02, Blogger snug.butt.plug said...

How does that change the fact that I, assclown extraordinaire, Brian "meatball on a fork" Good, ran away squealing and crying after Willie proved that his hero story was a true? After all, I was still in bed sleeping during the attacks, while Officer Lim witnessed Willie's heroics at Ground Zero.

We all know that some clown who was fast asleep 3000 miles away on the other side of the United States has more credibility than an eyewitness.

Ian, what makes you think that I'm a liar?

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At 10 July, 2013 20:08, Blogger snug.bug said...

Willie never proved that his hero story was true. He never provided a shred of evidence that it was true--except he showed the key that he falsely claimed saved hundreds of lives.

Willie ran away squealing and crying after I proved that his hero story is a lie.

 
At 10 July, 2013 20:20, Blogger snug.butt.plug said...

Willie never had to prove that his hero story was true. He never had to provide a shred of evidence that it was true--because Officer Lim held the key of hope in his hand and proclaimed Willie a hero.

I ran away squealing and crying after Officer Lim proved that his hero story is true.

Ian, what makes you think that I'm a sex predator?

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At 10 July, 2013 21:18, Blogger snug.bug said...

Officer Lim now refuses to comment on Willie's story.

Willie can only produce one person who will corroborate that Willie saved anyone--and that's John Schroeder, who tells three different stories, uncorroborated by anyone, about how Willie saved him and 11 other FDNY men on 9/11.

Death statistics prove that Willie's claim that he saved hundreds is a lie, and all your hysteria can't change that fact.

I didn't run away from anything. Here I am. Here la Porcina Mentirosa is not.

 
At 10 July, 2013 21:33, Blogger snug.butt.plug said...

Officer Lim now refuses to comment on Willie's story.

I demand that you prove my assertions are false (snicker).

Ian, what makes you think that I'm a liar?

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At 11 July, 2013 04:46, Blogger Ian said...

From the now-locked other thread:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:63.199.155.82&action=history

There, Brian. That's where wikipedia says you were banned fro vandalizing the Chinese olympic gymnastics team page.

Now start squealing and crying about how you share that IP address "with hundreds of people" (hundreds of people who are all homosexually obsessed with Willie Rodriguez and Kevin Barrett, apparently). We can all laugh at you for that the way we laugh at you when you deny running away squealing and crying from Rodriguez' debate challenge.

 
At 11 July, 2013 07:56, Blogger snug.bug said...

The article in Der Spiegel says about Lim: "He had decided many years ago, nothing more to say about Rodriguez, he considers, moreover, an opportunist. He would not get in trouble.

"In Lim's official testimony before the Commission of Inquiry on the attacks of 11 September he did not mention Rodriguez."

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/gesellschaft/9-11-ueberlebender-superhelden-epos-eines-putzmannes-a-781226.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dder%2Bspiegel%2Bwilliam%2Brodriguez%26biw%3D1024%26bih%3D585

This is, of course, the article that says Rodriguez is basically trying to pass off a $1 bill as a $20 bill.

Ian, where does your page say I vandalized a page about Chinese gymnasts? I never vandalized any pages about Chinese gymnasts.

 
At 11 July, 2013 08:10, Blogger GuitarBill said...

""He had decided many years ago, nothing more to say about Rodriguez, he considers, moreover, an opportunist. He would not get in trouble."

Brian Good is a gradu8 of the Evlyn Woodhead Scholl of sped reding.

Google translations?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Only a liar like Brian Good would try to pass off a Google translation as "accurate."

You're going to have to do better than that, asshole.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

FAIL.

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At 11 July, 2013 08:30, Blogger GuitarBill said...

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At 11 July, 2013 08:33, Blogger snug.bug said...

If I hadn't used Google translate, you would have simply asserted that janitors can't read German--as if it were true and pertinent.

OK, smart guy, how would you translate "[Lim] schon vor vielen Jahren beschlossen habe, nichts mehr über Rodriguez zu sagen, den er im Übrigen für einen Opportunisten hält. Er möchte keinen Ärger bekommen.

"In Lims offizieller Aussage vor der Untersuchungskommission zu den Anschlägen des 11. Septembers erwähnte er Rodriguez nicht."

How would you translate it, and how is the googleator wrong?





 
At 11 July, 2013 08:36, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The lying liar lies, "...Ian, where does your page say I vandalized a page about Chinese gymnasts? I never vandalized any pages about Chinese gymnasts."

That's your IP address ( 63.199.155.82). The same IP address Willie gave us back in 2009 when he exposed you here at SLC. The same IP address which appears at this web page, which is a mirror of the old SLC thread.

Yeah, there are dozens of obsessed homosexual 9/11 "Truthers" at that IP address. Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure.

You're a sick fuck.

Image that! A homosexual who's obsessed with Asian girls who have no tits and boy butts. You're a sick fucker.

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At 11 July, 2013 08:48, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The idiot whines, "How would you translate it, and how is the googleator wrong?"

Online translators are useless. For example, the translation you offer as "proof" isn't grammatically correct. Why would anyone trust it? We know why YOU trust it (because the bad translation supports your bullshit propaganda), but no honest person would ever trust Google translate.

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At 11 July, 2013 08:55, Blogger snug.bug said...

What makes you think 63.199.155.82 is my IP address? That's not what Google says when I say "check IP address".

Oh, Willie says that's my IP address? Well a guy who will lie to steal his glory from dead heroes is not exactly a credible source, is he?

How do you know your link is a mirror of the old SLC? Says who? How can we check? And who is "CBSF" to say what my IP address is? Why should we believe an anonymous internet poster's claim on an anonymously hosted web page?

When you rely on evidence like that you only show your intellectual incompetence.

What makes you think the IP address you cite is that of someone who is homosexually obsessed?

Back up your claims, fool.

 
At 11 July, 2013 09:31, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The lying liar lies, "Back up your claims, fool."

Yup, when gay boi's back is against the wall, DUMBSPAM. Your dumb act isn't fooling anyone but yourself, liar. The evidence against you stares you straight in your ferret face.

You were banned from Wikipedia for web vandalism.

Likewise, you were banned from the Northern California 9/11 Truth Alliance because you're an insane liar and a sex predator.

Basically, your true identity was exposed to the public as the result of a troofer cat fight between you, William Rodriguez, Carol Brouillet and Kevin Barrett. You thought you could bully Willie in the same manner that you bullied Carol Brouillet and Kevin Barrett, but you discovered that Willie is willing to fight back, and now you're looking for revenge after Willie bloodied your nose and exposed your sorry ass here in the SLC comment section back in 2009.

Fast forward to 2013 and guess what? You're still absolutely out of your mind with anger because Willie exposed you to the public and shamed you for your lying, sex predation and Internet vandalism. You're just as livid today as you were back in 2009.

Like I said up-thread, you're a sick fuck. And you're too stupid to know that you are your own worst enemy. You thought you could step into the "truther" snake pit and emerge unscathed. Well, how did that work out for you, gay boi?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Now scream for more "evidence" while you wrap your liver-spotted hands around your shrivel-dick and masturbate -- you freak.

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Brian Good's (aka, "snug.bug") Insane Homeless Mullet for sex predators. (Credit to Mike Rosefierce).

9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!

 
At 11 July, 2013 09:41, Blogger snug.bug said...

You keep making these claims, and then when I ask you to back them up you just repeat them and get mad.

You and Willie Rodriguez are two pees in a pod that way.

Nobody told me I was banned from the truth alliance. I've attended several meetings over the last few years.

What makes you think I was a sex predator? 'Cause Kevin Barrett said so?

Where in your link does William Rodriguez expose me? What does he expose me of?

There was a disagreement among William Rodriguez, Carol Brouillet, Kevin Barrett, and me because I exposed William as a liar and a fraud. Carol and Kevin didn't like that, because they had invested their personal credibility in Willie.

I am not out of my mind. I am simply adamant about the fact that Willie's hero story is a lie, and he is a con artist. I have proven that. It's not my fault that you lack the intelligence to see it. You are a very silly person, GutterBall.


 
At 11 July, 2013 09:43, Blogger snug.bug said...

Where's Old Jigglecheeks, anyway? He ran away squealing and crying after I proved that his hero story was a lie.

 
At 11 July, 2013 09:57, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The lying liar lies, "...You keep making these claims, and then when I ask you to back them up you just repeat them and get mad."

That's right, nut-bag, pretend that the links don't exist. Nothing ever changes with you, does it? When your back is against the wall, DUMBSPAM.

Go waste someone else's time with your dumbspam.

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Brian Good's (aka, "snug.bug") Insane Homeless Mullet for sex predators. (Credit to Mike Rosefierce).

9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!


 
At 11 July, 2013 10:02, Blogger snug.bug said...

I didn't pretend the links don't exist, UtterFail. I point out that they are not credible and/or they do not support your claims.

They do a great job of demonstrating your incompetence, though.

 
At 11 July, 2013 10:26, Blogger GuitarBill said...

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At 11 July, 2013 10:42, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Get it through your thick skull, liar: You have no credibility, thus no one cares what you think is "credible" or not.

That's the same IP address (63.199.155.82) Willie gave us back in 2009. That same IP address was used by the same person (YOU) who vandalized the Chinese gymnasts Wikipedia webpage. The odds against that person being anyone other than you are ASTRONOMICAL (BILLIONS TO ONE). The information about your banishment from the Northern California 9/11 Truth Alliance COMES DIRECTLY from Carol Brouillet. She is a FOUNDER of the Northern California 9/11 Truth Alliance. Thus, if she says you're banned, you're banned. Likewise, Willie's expose appeared in the SLC comment section back in 2009 and was mirrored by Kevin Barrett's website. A reproduction of that webpage was setup on Google after you perpetrated another act of web vandalism against Kevin Barrett's website.

You can lie and post DUMBSPAM until you're blue in the face, gay boi. The only person who believes you can be found between your chair and your keyboard. Everyone else readily acknowledges that you're an idiot, a common Internet vandal (ie., a criminal) and a liar. That you've been banned by dozens of websites across the spectrum of the Internet is testimony to your depravity. You're widely hated, and rightly so.

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Brian Good's (aka, "snug.bug") Insane Homeless Mullet for sex predators. (Credit to Mike Rosefierce).

9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!

 
At 11 July, 2013 11:07, Blogger snug.bug said...

So you admit you got the IP address from a blatant liar, Willie Rodriguez, who is highly motivated to lie about me. And you admit that the alleged "mirror" of the SLC web page passed through Kevin Barrett before it was copied. Now we're getting somewhere.

Say, would you take a second-generation photocopy a third-party check for $100,000, and give a guy $80,000 cash for it?


And where did Willie the unemployed janitor get my IP address? When did he become an expert on digital identities?

Nobody notified me that I was banned from the Truth Alliance. I've attended several of their meetings in the past several years. When I ran into my Truth Alliance colleagues at 9/11 events they were always cordial--even Carol.

Where do you get the idea that Willie did an expose on me? I don't see his authorship of anything on that alleged "mirror".

You're simply demonstrating your incompetence. NOt to mention your obsession with getting something on me. Doesn't your wife think your obsession with me is kind of strange?

When did I vandalize Kevin Barrett's wiki page? Why would I want to do that?

 
At 11 July, 2013 14:54, Blogger snug.bug said...

ButtGale, it's pretty obvious that you are taking at face value the claims of a couple of shameless liars who are pissed at me because I've exposed them as shameless liars. That's not very smart.

 
At 11 July, 2013 15:16, Blogger Ian said...

What makes you think 63.199.155.82 is my IP address? That's not what Google says when I say "check IP address".

Oh, Willie says that's my IP address? Well a guy who will lie to steal his glory from dead heroes is not exactly a credible source, is he?

How do you know your link is a mirror of the old SLC? Says who? How can we check? And who is "CBSF" to say what my IP address is? Why should we believe an anonymous internet poster's claim on an anonymously hosted web page?

When you rely on evidence like that you only show your intellectual incompetence.

What makes you think the IP address you cite is that of someone who is homosexually obsessed?

Back up your claims, fool.


Yup, this is the kind of hysterical squealing I expect from a pervert, liar, and failed janitor with a hideous haircut. Brian has been completely pwn3d.

 
At 11 July, 2013 15:18, Blogger Ian said...

ButtGale, it's pretty obvious that you are taking at face value the claims of a couple of shameless liars who are pissed at me because I've exposed them as shameless liars. That's not very smart.

Poor Brian. He thinks hysterical spam will cover up the fact that he's a pervert and liar who was banned from wikipedia.

Brian, everyone already knows this about you. Squealing about it won't change things.

 
At 11 July, 2013 15:44, Blogger snug.bug said...

IOW, you can not back up your claims.

I'm not squealing about anything.

And none of this changes the fact that I have proven that William Rodriguez is a con artist and his hero story is a lie.

 
At 11 July, 2013 18:38, Blogger Mike Rosefierce said...

For the record, Brian's IP address was indeed 63.199.155.82, as shown on the headers of his posts at sf911truth.

X-Originating-IP: [63.199.155.82]
From: Brian Good <snug...@hotmail.com>

(e.g., here, here, and here)

Not that I think anyone was fooled by Brian's typically lame dissembling.

 
At 11 July, 2013 19:44, Blogger Ian said...

IOW, you can not back up your claims.

I'm not squealing about anything.

And none of this changes the fact that I have proven that William Rodriguez is a con artist and his hero story is a lie.


False, false, and false. Poor Brian, he's just squealing hysterically because everyone knows he's a pervert who was banned from wikipedia for vandalizing the page of the Chinese Olympic gymnastics team, and that he has a perverted lust for Willie Rodriguez.

No wonder you were banned from the truth movement!

 
At 11 July, 2013 19:54, Blogger Ian said...

I also enjoy the typical squealspam that Brian posts in response to the threats to be banned:

I don't need to look up those words to know that a "petition" is a request that someone do something, while a "statement" is a declaration. Supporting a petition I agree is a trivial act. Signing a declaration of principles, particularly one that compares the President to Hitler and calls for him to be driven from office, is courageous and potentially career-threatening and thus noteworthy.

Yet again with the whole "I'm so courageous for calling the president Hitler" nonsense. No, Brian, people who compare the president to Hitler (Bush or Obama) are deranged and historically illiterate. Given that you're an ignorant lunatic with a hideous haircut, it doesn't surprise me that you don't understand this.

 
At 11 July, 2013 19:59, Blogger Ian said...

You think signing a statement comparing the President to Hitler is not a noteworthy achievement?

No, it's not a noteworthy achievement. It's just dime-a-dozen stupidity (just listen to far-right talk radio blathering about how the Supreme Court overturning DOMA makes us North Korea for more on that).

It doesn't surprise me that you don't understand this, Brian, given that you're so dumb and mentally ill that you live with your parents because you can't hold down a job mopping floors.

 
At 12 July, 2013 00:03, Blogger TruthersrAlwaysWrong said...

Hey Jon Gold, how the fuck ya doing in Plymouth Meeting, PA fatty?

 
At 12 July, 2013 04:43, Blogger Ian said...

Hmm, I wonder where Brian is? I guess he ran away squealing and crying again, since I completely humiliated him again.

 
At 12 July, 2013 07:59, Blogger snug.butt.plug said...

If someone was to murder me, would that be homocide?

So Ian, what makes you think that I'm a sex predator?

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At 12 July, 2013 09:02, Blogger snug.bug said...

Ian, I never vandalized any web pages about Chinese gymnasts.

And none of this does anything to change the fact that I proved that Willie Rodriguez is a con artist who steals his glory from the dead. I proved that his hero story is a lie, and he ran away squealing and crying.

 
At 12 July, 2013 09:23, Blogger snug.butt.plug said...

Ian, I never vandalized any web pages about Chinese gymnasts. What makes you think that I vandalized web pages about Chinese gymnasts?

UtterFail, your pretense that I am failing to provide links is transparent. I haven't failed to provide links. You have...I don't watch Olympic gymnastics. It's too upsetting to see 15-year-old girls who haven't reached puberty because their training is so stressful. They're freaks like Castrati. It's child abuse.

And none of this does anything to change the fact that I can't prove that Willie Rodriguez is a con artist who steals his glory from the dead. I failed to prove that his hero story is a lie, and I ran away squealing and crying from his challenge to debate. Willie's no match for an accomplished super con artist like me, Brain "meatball on a fork" Good.

So Ian, what makes you think that I'm a liar?

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At 12 July, 2013 09:30, Blogger snug.butt.plug said...

Ian, what makes you think 63.199.155.82 is my IP address? That's not what Google says when I say "check IP address".

Mike R., what makes you think 63.199.155.82 is my IP address? That's not what Google says when I say "check IP address".

Utterfail, what makes you think 63.199.155.82 is my IP address? That's not what Google says when I say "check IP address".

What makes you think that the person at IP address 63.199.155.82 was responsible for vandalizing the Chinese gymnastic teams Wikipedia web page?

I'm not a liar or a sex predator!

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At 12 July, 2013 09:43, Blogger snug.bug said...

What does any of this have to do with the fact that Willie Rodriguez ran away squealing and crying after I proved that his hero story is a lie?

 
At 12 July, 2013 09:44, Blogger snug.bug said...

All you're doing is demonstrating that you can't defend Willie's lies but only lie about the messenger.

 
At 12 July, 2013 10:10, Blogger snug.butt.plug said...

What does any of this have to do with the fact that I, assclown extraordinaire, Brian "meatball on a fork" Good, ran away squealing and crying after I failed to prove that his hero story is a lie?

Look mommy! I'm riding a unicorn!

Ian, what makes you think that I'm a liar?

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At 12 July, 2013 10:23, Blogger snug.bug said...

I didn't fail at anything. I proved that Willie's hero story is a lie. The death statistics show that quite clearly to anyone who's willing to look.

 
At 12 July, 2013 10:38, Blogger snug.butt.plug said...

I fail at everything, and then I lie about the failure. I can't prove that Willie's hero story is a lie, so I lie about the death statistics, which prove nothing, in order to provide a fig leaf for my failure to provide evidence to support my homosexual hate propaganda.

Hell hath no fury like a homo scorned.

I love you Wiiiiiiiiiiillllllllllllllllliiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Ian, what makes you think that I'm a sex predator?

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At 12 July, 2013 10:44, Blogger snug.bug said...

I didn't fail at anything. I proved that Willie's hero story is a lie. The death statistics show that quite clearly to anyone who's willing to look.

Willie ran away squealing and crying and he hasn't been back. He leaves spambulous bullshitters like you to try and cover his tracks.

 
At 12 July, 2013 10:52, Blogger snug.butt.plug said...

If a man turns himself into a women and a women turns himself into a man and they both have sex would that be considered gay?

Hey, it makes more sense than my homosexual hate propaganda.

Ian, what makes you think that I'm a sex predator?

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At 12 July, 2013 11:06, Blogger snug.butt.plug said...

MGF, what makes you think 63.199.155.82 is my IP address? That's not what Google says when I say "check IP address".

James B., what makes you think 63.199.155.82 is my IP address? That's not what Google says when I say "check IP address".

Pat, what makes you think 63.199.155.82 is my IP address? That's not what Google says when I say "check IP address".

Utterfail, what makes you think that the person at IP address 63.199.155.82 was responsible for vandalizing the Chinese gymnastic teams Wikipedia web page?

I'm not a liar or a sex predator!

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At 12 July, 2013 11:11, Blogger snug.bug said...

What homosexual hate propaganda? I didn't say anything homophobic.

Kevin Barrett is a liar. I greatly embarrassed him simply by publishing quotes from his own writings, and he found that very hard to take.

 
At 12 July, 2013 12:42, Blogger snug.butt.plug said...

What homosexual hate propaganda? How can a homophobic homosexual possibly say anything homophobic?

Kevin Barrett is a breeder. I greatly embarrassed myself simply by quote mining his own writings and trying to pass-off non sequiturs as debate. He found my hate propaganda very easy to debunk and consequently he crushed me like a grape.

Ian, what makes you think that I'm a sex predator?

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At 12 July, 2013 12:45, Blogger snug.bug said...

OK, thanks for proving my point. No homosexual hate propaganda.

Kevin Barrett is a liar.

I proved that Willie's hero story is a lie. The death statistics show that quite clearly to anyone who's willing to look.

Willie ran away squealing and crying and he hasn't been back. He leaves spambulous bullshitters like you to try and cover his tracks.

 
At 12 July, 2013 15:06, Blogger snug.butt.plug said...

OK, thanks for destroying my argument. I post nothing but homosexual hate propaganda.

Brian "meatball on a fork" Good is a liar.

I failed to prove that Willie's hero story is a lie. The death "statistics" prove nothing because I'm not qualified to discuss "statistics" or any other subject beyond the latest masturbation techniques.

I ran away squealing and crying from Willie's challenge to debate. He leaves truth tellers like snug.butt.plug to taunt me and make a fool of me.

Everything I post to SLC is bullshit. For example, the widows "273 questions" are nothing but accusatory innuendo masquerading as "questions." Only a fool takes me seriously.

Ian, what makes you think that I'm a sex predator?

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At 12 July, 2013 15:17, Blogger snug.bug said...

I didn't run away from anything, fool. I tried to find a neutral venue for a debate. Willie would not help.

Here I am; here Willie is not. He ran away squealing and crying when I proved that his hero story is a lie.

 
At 12 July, 2013 15:27, Blogger snug.butt.plug said...

I ran away from Willie while I hid behind Carol Brouillet's skirt. I tossed out a red herring and demanded that Carol Brouillet provide a "neutral venue" for the debate so she could "edit" Willie's replies to my satisfaction (so much for honest and open debate). Carol Brouillet, however, will have nothing to do me because I'm a sex predator who tried to ruin her marriage. So Willie rightly told me to take my "neutral venue" and fuck off.

I ran away squealing and crying when I failed to prove that his hero story is a lie. My "statistics," like everything else I post to SLC, are a crock of shit.

Ian, what makes you think that I'm a liar?

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At 12 July, 2013 15:35, Blogger snug.bug said...

You are a liar. Willie ran away squealing and crying when I proved that his hero story is a lie.

 
At 12 July, 2013 18:19, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

Back on topic....

This leaked report is breath-taking in it's brutal honesty about the depth and scope of Pakistan's failure.

I does make me wonder what classified reports from US intelligence agency vaults remain to be revealed that do the same thing.

I doubt Pakistan will change will change it's stripes as long as the ISI is controlled by extemists.

 
At 12 July, 2013 18:58, Blogger snug.bug said...

Pentagon files on the bin Laden raid were moved to the CIA to keep them away from the public, says an AP writer.

http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/08/19353473-pentagon-secretly-moved-bin-laden-raid-files-to-keep-them-from-public?lite

 
At 12 July, 2013 19:04, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

So?

 
At 12 July, 2013 19:07, Blogger snug.butt.plug said...

MGF, not only am I an engineer a scientist and the president of NAMBLA, I'm a former military man. In fact, in the military I was known as "Sergeant Savage," and I instructed the men in mysteries of [cough] "drill."

MGF, what makes you think that I'm a sex predator?

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At 13 July, 2013 08:02, Blogger snug.bug said...

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At 13 July, 2013 08:54, Blogger snug.bug said...

So? You were asking what files remain to be revealed. I told you that a whole slew of files had been moved to the CIA, presumably so they would not be revealed and, if past precedent is any guide, they can be destroyed as the torture tapes were.

Where's Wizzie LiedRugAs? He ran away squealing and crying after I proved that his hero story is a lie.

Of 15,000 civilians on the 138 floors underneath the impact zones in the towers, all but about 100 evacuated successfully before the towers came down.

About 103 of those floors had locked fire exit doors (locked from the stairway side, not from the office side).

How many of those 100 dead were trapped in elevators, burned up in the lobby or, like Ed Beyea, slow to get down the stairs? Shall we say 60?

That leaves 40 dead from 103 locked floors (and the associated unlocked floors). Willie had about 22 locked floors in his zone of 39 floors. Thus if Willie's floors followed the statistical pattern of the rest of the under-impact zone, 5 people from his locked floors would have died.

Let's look at it from the other side. If Willie's key "saved hundreds of lives" as he claims, then hundreds should have died on the 80-or so locked floors he could not reach. But they didn't. He lied. It's really as simple as that.

Willie is a blatant con artist who defrauds his admirers with a lying brag that steals it's glory from dead heroes. He indicts the intellectual competence of anyone who believes his nonsense.

 
At 13 July, 2013 09:03, Blogger snug.butt.plug said...

Look mommy! It only took me four tries to get my lies straight.

Worship me, I'm baby boomer scum.

Ian, what makes you think that I'm a compulsive liar?

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At 13 July, 2013 09:17, Blogger snug.bug said...

Nothing you can say can change the fact that Willie's hero story is a lie.

Its keystone event is the claimed 22-story collapse from 65 to 43. This was Willie's excuse for leaving the building. Only that could explain why, after saving hundreds on floors 9--39, he went downstairs and abandoned hundreds more from 40 to 92 who were (according to his logic) trapped behind locked exit doors waiting for him to come and set them free.

So he invented the phony collapse to solve his problem. He couldn't save those hundreds on the upper floors--because they were already dead.

Except they weren't. In fact, if he was the last man out, they were already below him on the stairs.

Willie had to know his phony story would get uncovered some time. He got away with it for longer than he ever could have expected to. The least he can do is be a good sport about it.






 
At 13 July, 2013 09:53, Blogger snug.butt.plug said...

Nothing I say can change the fact that I'm a compulsive liar with a homosexual obsession for William Rodriguez.

Officer Lim proclaimed Willie a hero, and has never renounced that statement.

The real reason Officer Lim refuses to talk about Willie has nothing at all to do with the lies I tell. The reason Officer Lim refuses to talk about Willie is simple: Willie is a 9/11 "truther," thus Officer Lim wants nothing to do with Willie and the 9/11 "truth" movement.

Nothing has changed, no matter how many lies I tell. Willie is hero.

And Willie didn't choose to leave the building. He was ORDERED to leave the building by Officer Lim.

"...I literally had to kick him out. This guy [Rodriguez] wanted to stay with me all the time...This is the true hero of 9/11." -- Officer Lim

See? I'm a liar who can't be trusted to tell the truth.

Ian, what makes you think that I'm a liar?

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At 13 July, 2013 10:00, Blogger snug.bug said...

Officer Lim did not mention Willie even once in his testimony to the 9/11 Commission, and according to Der Spiegel Officer Lim refuses to comment on Willie's story, and says Willie is an opportunist.

Willie's not a truther. He's a liar. A liar can not be a truther. Willie claimed he renounced all the conspiracy theories. Willie claimed that he never said anything about any basement bombs (even though his federal lawsuit was all about basement bombs).

Willie didn't have to follow Officer Lim's orders. He could have switched over to another stairwell and then kept on climbing. What was Lim going to do--arrest him?

Willie is a blatant fraud, a con artist who uses a lying hero story to induce people to give him money. He steals his glory from the dead. Nothing you say can change that.




 
At 13 July, 2013 10:03, Blogger snug.bug said...

And what's this "July" thing? Are you a jew-hater like Willie's buddies Barrett, Piper, Bollyn, and Szymanski?

So what if I were Jewish? It wouldn't change the fact that Willie's hero story is a lie and he's a fraud.

 
At 13 July, 2013 10:11, Blogger snug.butt.plug said...

"...I literally had to kick him out. This guy [Rodriguez] wanted to stay with me all the time...This is the true hero of 9/11." -- Officer Lim

See? I'm a liar. It's a CRIME not to follow the direct orders of a police officer.

See? I'm a liar who can't be trusted to tell the truth.

The Herald newspaper of Glasgow characterized William Rodriguez as "the poster boy for a movement currently sweeping the globe...the 9/11 Truth Campaign."

See? I'm a liar who can't be trusted to tell the truth. Willie is, in fact, "the poster boy" for the 9/11 troof movement.


Ian, what makes you think that I'm a liar?

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At 13 July, 2013 10:21, Blogger snug.bug said...

So what if it's a crime? According to Willie he stole a ladder, stole a guy's radio, and broke open a water vending machine. Also, I've been told that Willie claimed that while he was being paid to clean the stairwells by ABM, he was also conducting his own business doing computer support work for clients in the offices. Willie had no problem with committing crimes. And what do you think--Lim is going to track him down and arrest him for being as hero? You're nuts, and only showing how soft-headed Willie's supporters are.

Lim told Der Spiegel that Willie was an opportunist and he wouldn't comment on Willie's story.

And what's this "July" thing? Are you a jew-hater like Willie's buddies Barrett, Piper, Bollyn, and Szymanski?

So what if I were Jewish? It wouldn't change the fact that Willie's hero story is a lie and he's a fraud.

 
At 13 July, 2013 10:28, Blogger snug.butt.plug said...

See? I'm a liar. When I'm caught lying over-and-over again, I merely ignore the lies and change the subject.

Thus, my commentary is NOT WORTHY OF A RESPONSE.

Ian, what makes you think that I'm a compulsive liar?

As a failed janitor, who can't hold down a job mopping floors, all of my former [cough] "colleagues" are illiterate peasants from central America, JULYER.

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At 13 July, 2013 10:41, Blogger snug.bug said...

Empty claims. Where's Willie, anyway? He ran away squealing and crying after I proved that his hero story was a lie. I hope Elvis is OK!

 
At 13 July, 2013 10:49, Blogger snug.butt.plug said...

As always, I was caught red-handed lying about William Rodriguez and Officer Lim. Thus, my bullshit is NWOR.

Since I'm and insane compulsive liar, I'll continue to babble as though I wasn't caught lying. Par for the course.

Ian, what makes you think I'm a liar?

Gringo, I'll sell you my seeeester for 20 pesos. She's virgin!

¡Órale Wey!

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At 13 July, 2013 10:51, Blogger snug.bug said...

I didn't lie about anything, liar. So what if I were Jewish? It wouldn't change the fact that Willie's hero story is a lie and he's a fraud.

 
At 13 July, 2013 11:32, Blogger snug.butt.plug said...

Will I ever shut up?

Ian, what makes you think that I'm a motor-mouthed compulsive liar?

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At 13 July, 2013 11:36, Blogger snug.butt.plug said...

So what if I were Jewish? It wouldn't change the fact that Willie's hero story is a lie and he's a fraud.

No one claimed that I'm "Jewish."

See? I don't ever bother to read the replies to my lies and bullshit. That's why my "commentary" is not worthy of a response.

Ian, what makes you think that I'm a sex predator?

Excuse me while I babble like the 'tard I've always been.

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At 13 July, 2013 11:50, Blogger snug.bug said...


Where's Wizzie LiedRugAs? He ran away squealing and crying after I proved that his hero story is a lie.

Of approximately 15,000 civilians on the 138 floors underneath the impact zones in the towers, all but about 100 evacuated successfully before the towers came down.

About 103 of those floors had locked fire exit doors (locked from the stairway side, not from the office side).

How many of those ~100 dead were trapped in elevators, burned up in the lobby or, like Ed Beyea, slow to get down the stairs? Shall we say 60?

That leaves 40 dead from ~100 locked floors (and the associated unlocked floors). Willie had about 22 locked floors in his zone of 39 floors. Thus if Willie's floors followed the statistical pattern of the rest of the under-impact zone, 5 people from his locked floors would have died.

Let's look at it from the other side. If Willie's key "saved hundreds of lives" as he claims, then hundreds should have died on the 80-or so locked floors he could not reach. But they didn't. He lied. It's really as simple as that.

Willie is a blatant con artist who defrauds his admirers with a lying brag that steals it's glory from dead heroes. He indicts the intellectual competence of anyone who believes his nonsense.

You can't change the fact of Willie's fraudulence by libeling the messenger.

 
At 13 July, 2013 13:22, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

"So? You were asking what files remain to be revealed. I told you that a whole slew of files had been moved to the CIA, presumably so they would not be revealed and, if past precedent is any guide, they can be destroyed as the torture tapes were."

The files that pertain to the raid that killed bin Laden, not 9/11. Two very different things. Al Qaeda's leadership is still in Pakistan, and that means that the CIA is still operating in Pakistan, and the files on the raid contain information on the CIA's operation on the ground there.

The Wikileaks documents were DoD and DoS, not internal CIA, and moving the files under the CIA umbrella id a smart move.

 
At 13 July, 2013 13:34, Blogger snug.bug said...

Oh, so information on al Qaeda's operations in Pakistan has nothing to do with 9/11. Thanks for making that clear.

 
At 13 July, 2013 15:30, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

Not in the last ten years.

And the only information they are talking about is the raid, and the intel that lead to the raid. Nothing before 2002.

That information will be available in nine more years.

 
At 13 July, 2013 18:11, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

Judge mulls if WTC properties can sue airlines for 9/11:

http://www.stripes.com/judge-to-mull-if-airlines-owe-wtc-owners-over-9-11-1.230243

appLAd 4274

 
At 14 July, 2013 12:43, Blogger snug.bug said...

MGF, the only documents they're talking about are about the raid. They don't say that no other documents were transferred to the CIA. The story is only about the documents that were revealed in the IG report.

 
At 14 July, 2013 13:52, Blogger Ian said...

Well, I see Brian spent another lonely weekend posting hysterical spam about Willie Rodriguez. Brian has clearly lost all interest in 9/11 and is just a homosexual stalker at this point.

I meanwhile, enjoyed a weekend out of town with my friends. Brian wouldn't understand, since he has no friends, and he's too poor to afford a weekend out of town (he can't even afford a decent haircut).

 
At 14 July, 2013 13:59, Blogger snug.bug said...

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At 14 July, 2013 14:01, Blogger snug.bug said...

Ian, posting on an internet forum where people who imagine that Willie Rodriguez is a hero post libel about me is hardly "stalking". Also, Willie's sexual orientation has nothing to do with the fact that his hero story is fraudulent, and nothing to do with my posting about his con artistry.

 
At 14 July, 2013 14:37, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

" They don't say that no other documents were transferred to the CIA."

All you need to know about Brian's intellectual flaw.

They also don't say that dancing elephants, the Millennium Falcon, or the Hope Diamond were moved to CIA either.

 
At 14 July, 2013 14:39, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

Kevin Barret is at it again:

http://extremeprejudiceusa.wordpress.com/2013/02/21/supreme-court-slams-door-in-911-widows-face/

 
At 14 July, 2013 15:09, Blogger snug.bug said...

I didn't say anything about dancing elephants, the Millennium Falcon, or the Hope Diamond. I was disputing your evidence-free claim that "That information will be available in nine more years."

You seemed to be implying that if we heard about a particular set of documents being transferred to the CIA, then we could infer that no other documents were transferred and no other documents will be transferred.



 
At 15 July, 2013 04:47, Blogger Ian said...

Ian, posting on an internet forum where people who imagine that Willie Rodriguez is a hero post libel about me is hardly "stalking". Also, Willie's sexual orientation has nothing to do with the fact that his hero story is fraudulent, and nothing to do with my posting about his con artistry.

What makes you think that his hero story is fraudulent? Did Kevin Barrett tell you that.

Anyway, considering how humiliated you were when I pointed out how your were banned from wikipedia for vandalism, it doesn't surprise me that you'd bury my posts in homosexual stalker spam.

Don't worry, Brian. Everyone got to laugh at your humiliation over being banned from wikipedia. It's no different from the laughter we all had over your belief in invisible widows with 273 "questions".

 
At 15 July, 2013 08:35, Blogger snug.bug said...

I have already told you many times what shows that Willie's hero story is fraudulent. The death statistics show that about 100 civilians died in both towers under the impact zone. Assuming that about 60 of those who died were trapped in elevators or, like Ed Beyea, got into the stairwwell but were slow to get down the stairs, that leaves at most 40 people on 103 locked floors who were unable to get to the stairwell. On Willie's 22 locked floors, Willie's share of those 40 would have been at most 8 that he could have saved.

If Willie saved hundreds by unlocking doors on 22 floors, then hundreds or even over a thousand more should have died on the 80 or so locked floors he did not reach. They didn't. They didn't die because they weren't locked in! Willie's claim that he was "opening doors and letting people out" was a lie.

Your lies don't humiliate me, Ian. Willie's sexual orientation has nothing to do with my posting about him.

Your continued belittling of the widows' frustration in being unable to get their questions answered tells us (and your friends) all we need to know about you.








 

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