Monday, August 05, 2013

Boston Bomber a Truther?

Apparently the dead Boston Bomber might have been a bit of a conspiracy theorist.

The programme discovered that Tamerlan Tsarnaev possessed articles which argued that both 9/11 and the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing were government conspiracies. Another in his possession was about "the rape of our gun rights". Reading material he had about white supremacy commented that "Hitler had a point"

And this is a surprise to whom exactly?

And on another note. More evidence for the Willy Nelson Hypothesis.


The brothers had been reading militant Islamic websites before the bombings. Friends say the younger brother smoked copious amounts of pot and rarely prayed. 'Tito' told us Dzhokhar's older brother dominated him and didn't approve of his "party lifestyle".

Update: The Wall Street Journal adds more details to this story, even giving it front page treatment.  Apparently out old friends the American Free Press were involved.


Mr. Tsarnaev got his own subscription to American Free Press, a paper that the Southern Law Poverty Center said promotes anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. A spokeswoman for the paper denied it had such an agenda, saying the paper publishes "news that the established media won't." She confirmed that someone bought Mr. Tsarnaev a "get acquainted" 16-week subscription in December. It expired in April, at about the time of the Boston Marathon attack.

 And to respond to M. Gregory Ferris in the comments. No, I am not Batman, although with access to enough startup capital and adequate research facilities, I could be...


48 Comments:

At 05 August, 2013 18:38, Blogger snug.butt.plug said...

Tito' told us Dzhokhar's older brother dominated him and didn't approve of his "party lifestyle".

I knew Dzhokhar was butch.

I just called the domination hotline but no one answered. They're probably all tied up.

 
At 05 August, 2013 18:43, Blogger Richard Gage's Testicles said...

OT but related -- recently realized that John Allen Muhammed (the Beltway Sniper) was a Truther. See specifically Exhibit 65-067 from his trial ("85% chance Zionists did this"). File under Truther Murderers.

 
At 06 August, 2013 10:10, Blogger snug.bug said...

So am I to assume that James B. possesses no articles that argue that 9/11 and the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing were government conspiracies? And I'm to assume that if he did, then apparently he might be "a bit of a conspiracy theorist"?

 
At 06 August, 2013 14:17, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

I suspect James B is Batman.

 
At 06 August, 2013 20:17, Blogger James B. said...

I certainly don't have a subscription to the American Free Press.

 
At 07 August, 2013 04:49, Blogger Ian said...

So am I to assume that James B. possesses no articles that argue that 9/11 and the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing were government conspiracies? And I'm to assume that if he did, then apparently he might be "a bit of a conspiracy theorist"?

How come you didn't ask if James B. has any original "Incredible Hulk" comics? He might be able to help you out in your search for the architectural credentials of David Banner. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!

 
At 07 August, 2013 10:29, Blogger Avery said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xGNA7U54Qw&feature=youtu.be

^

check it

 
At 07 August, 2013 10:57, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...check it..."

LOL

 
At 08 August, 2013 16:04, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

I'll just leaving this one here from The Onion: http://www.theonion.com/articles/truther-jihadist-wishes-alqaeda-had-committed-911,33421/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:1:Default

 
At 09 August, 2013 14:13, Blogger Jon Gold said...

"Over the years, almost every poll on the subject has shown that MOST people have questions about the 9/11 attacks.

In August 2004, 911Truth.org commissioned Zogby International for a poll that concluded “half (49.3%) of New York City residents and 41% of New York citizens overall say that some of our leaders “knew in advance that attacks were planned on or around September 11, 2001, and that they consciously failed to act.”

In May 2006, 911Truth.org commissioned Zogby International for a poll that concluded 45% of voting Americans think “Congress or an International Tribunal should re-investigate the attacks, including whether any US government officials consciously allowed or helped facilitate their success.”

In September 2007, 911Truth.org commissioned Zogby International for a poll that concluded “51% of Americans want Congress to probe Bush/Cheney regarding the 9/11 Attacks.”

In August 2006, Scripps Howard/Ohio University conducted a poll that concluded, “more than a third of the American public suspects that federal officials assisted in the 9/11 terrorist attacks or took no action to stop them so the United States could go to war in the Middle East.”

In November 2007, Scripps Howard/Ohio University conducted another poll that concluded, “nearly two-thirds of Americans think it is possible that some federal officials had specific warnings of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, but chose to ignore those warnings.”

Because MOST people have questions about the 9/11 attacks, chances are that some people who commit horrible crimes may have questions about the 9/11 attacks. It doesn't mean that everyone who questions the 9/11 attacks, or are advocates for 9/11 Justice, or consider themselves "9/11 Truthers" are murderers. Just like for 9/11, which was not an act of war but a crime, you hold the individuals responsible, accountable, and not entire ideologies, nationalities, or religions.

I'm sorry that people have been harmed. I truly am. I wish things like this never happened. Things like 9/11. Unfortunately, I have no control over things like that. All I can do is what I think is the right thing, and advocating for 9/11 Justice (because we have been lied to about that day), is most certainly the right thing to do.

Incidentally, the way she described "9/11 Truthers" does not apply to the majority of people who consider themselves "9/11 Truthers." I wrote about it here…

http://cindysheehanssoapbox.blogspot.com/2013/01/not-all-truthers-are-equal.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrYYDyCbQjI

 
At 09 August, 2013 15:10, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Jon Gold whines, "...In May 2006, 911Truth.org commissioned Zogby International for a poll that concluded 45% of voting Americans think...[blah][blah][blah]."

"...In September 2007, 911Truth.org commissioned Zogby International for a poll that concluded “51% of Americans want...[blah][blah][blah]."

"...In August 2006, Scripps Howard/Ohio University conducted a poll that concluded, “more than a third of the American public suspects...[blah][blah][blah]."

"...In November 2007, Scripps Howard/Ohio University conducted another poll that concluded, “nearly two-thirds of Americans think it is possible...[blah][blah][blah]."

70% American's also believe that God exists and they also accept "Jesus Christ as their personal savior."

Who gives a fuck what Americans think?

 
At 09 August, 2013 15:13, Blogger Richard Gage's Testicles said...

All I can do is what I think is the right thing, and advocating for 9/11 Justice (because we have been lied to about that day), is most certainly the right thing to do.

Assuming we really were lied to about 9/11, why does it matter? Does it change what happened? Does it shift the blame?

 
At 09 August, 2013 15:15, Blogger Richard Gage's Testicles said...

Who gives a fuck what Americans think?

Also in 2006, somebody with the initials JG was giving high praise to David Ray Griffin. Stale opinions don't matter.

 
At 09 August, 2013 15:23, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Jon Gold whines, "...Incidentally, the way she described "9/11 Truthers" does not apply to the majority of people who consider themselves "9/11 Truthers." I wrote about it here...[blah][blah][blah]."

Oh boy! Jon Gold wrote a 100% fact-free article. That settles it. [GuitarBill rolls his eyes in amazement]

Your idiotic article doesn't prove a Goddamned thing.

 
At 09 August, 2013 15:48, Blogger David Banner said...

Someone should contact Richard Simmons and send him to Jon Gold's house in Plymouth Landing, PA.

 
At 09 August, 2013 16:00, Blogger GuitarBill said...

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At 09 August, 2013 16:02, Blogger GuitarBill said...

RGT wrote, "...Also in 2006, somebody with the initials JG was giving high praise to David Ray Griffin."

And SLC's resident compulsive liar, Brian Good (aka, "snug.bug"), also buys Grifter's malarkey lock, stock and barrel.

Well, you know what they say...

Con men of a feather...

 
At 09 August, 2013 17:17, Blogger Jon Gold said...

Since we are "9/11 Truthers," and you are the opposite of us, does that make you "9/11 Liars?" ;)

 
At 09 August, 2013 17:47, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Before you can call us "liars", fat boi, you have to prove that we lie.

In fact, we've proven that "truthers" lie constantly, For example, we've exposed the "truthers" deceptively edited videos (building 7, anyone?), which are designed solely to fool the gullible. We've exposed "truthers" like David Ray Grifter, who publish conspiracy theories filled with lie after lie after lie after lie. We've also exposed compulsive liars like Steven E. Jones, a so-called "professor of physics," who publishes idiotic political tracts that masquerade as "peer reviewed" articles ("nanothermite" and "perpetual motion" devices, anyone?). Yet, when Jones' so-called "peer reviewed" articles are subjected to scrutiny, the "peer reviewed" articles are found to be filled with nothing but pseudo-science and lies by omission.

Face it, fat boi, you're a "truther" in the Orwellian sense of the word ONLY.

 
At 09 August, 2013 18:35, Blogger Richard Gage's Testicles said...

And SLC's resident compulsive liar, Brian Good (aka, "snug.bug"), also buys Grifter's malarkey lock, stock and barrel.

snug.bug simultaneously does not accept and does not dismiss any given piece of data. His only firm belief is that every account is incomplete and more investigation is needed. He would have been good at writing research proposals if his personality wasn't so repellent.

 
At 09 August, 2013 20:36, Blogger David Banner said...

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At 09 August, 2013 20:38, Blogger David Banner said...

Jon Gold, you don't see any debunkers handcuffing themselves to Federal Property and getting arrested.

How long is your arrest record Jon?

 
At 09 August, 2013 21:25, Blogger GuitarBill said...

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At 10 August, 2013 04:34, Blogger GuitarBill said...

RGT wrote, "...snug.bug simultaneously does not accept and does not dismiss any given piece of data."

Gosh RGT, where have I heard that before????????

"...To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget, whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again, and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself – that was the ultimate subtlety; consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word 'doublethink' involved the use of doublethink." -- Eric Blair, aka George Orwell, 1984.

Uh huh...

"The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them...To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just as long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies – all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth." -- Eric Blair, aka George Orwell, 1984.

Engsoc he speak bellyfeel, RGT.

RGT wrote, "... His only firm belief is that every account is incomplete and more investigation is needed."

Don't you mean, "Every 'account' except his own bogus interpretation of the events of 11 September 2001"?

RGT wrote, "...He would have been good at writing research proposals if his personality wasn't so repellent."

BS. Honest research requires honesty. Thus, that proposal is dead on arrival.

On the other hand, perhaps "snug.bug" (pronounced 'shit for brains') can share his "research" into the architectural credentials of The Incredible Hulk's David Banner?

 
At 10 August, 2013 04:58, Blogger Avery said...

While you morons are debating with other morons, someone in the Truth Movement is performing a coup. Truthers are about to infiltrate academia. Here's the documentary:

http://youtu.be/OFzVKDdCa6s

Look how Truther points are being submerged in the language of academic neutrality. No mistake about it, this documentary needs a full treatment from the anti-conspiracy side. I hope this blog gives it one.

 
At 10 August, 2013 05:20, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Avery wrote, "...While you morons are debating with other morons, someone in the Truth Movement is performing a coup."

This is an excellent example of how to lose friends and alienate people. Good work, genius!

FYI:

9/11 troof is dead -- and da troof died on 20 January 2009.

 
At 10 August, 2013 09:45, Blogger James B. said...

Yeah, I caught the trailer. I was a bit amused when they quoted Potsheman's paper as saying there was a 99% chance of insider trading before 9/11. I read that paper carefully, and even exchanged e-mails with him, and no point does he ever make that claim.

 
At 10 August, 2013 14:57, Blogger snug.bug said...

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At 10 August, 2013 14:58, Blogger snug.bug said...

GutBleater, people who care about democracy and justice care what Americans think. You don't care about either one of them, so there's no point in trying to explain to you why better men do care.

I already reported my research on the claimed architectural credentials of David Banner. I could not verify them. It appears that David Banner was lying about his credentials.


RGT, JG praised DRG in 2006. Things have changed since then.

Avery, truther points should be presented neutrally. Facts is facts, and the fact is that the official reports are incomplete and dishonest.

James B, Dr. Poteshman's paper (the 2003 version) concludes:

"Abnormal long put volume . . . . during the four trade dates leading up to September 11 . . . . is at the 0.99 quantile of its unconditional daily distribution and the 0.96 quantile of the unconditional distribution of its maximum over four trade date intervals. . . . The paper concludes that there is evidence of unusual options market activity in the days leading up to September 11 which is consistent with investors trading on advanced knowledge of the attacks."

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=370741


So how is the 0.99 quantile of put volume evidencing activity consistent with advance knowledge inconsistent with a 99% certainty of insider trading? Are you accusing Dr. Zarembka of lying, or simply quibbling about semantics?

 
At 10 August, 2013 16:26, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The lying homosexual whines, "...GutBleater, people who care about democracy and justice care what Americans think. You don't care about either one of them, so there's no point in trying to explain to you why better men do care."

Fuck you, scumbag. You have no idea what I care about--you lying faggot. As everyone knows, you're an Al Qaeda apologist; thus, you don't give a damn about "democracy" or "justice." For example, if you gave a damn about "justice", you wouldn't DARE try to frame an innocent man for a crime he didn't commit. Any prattle about "justice" from a lying scumbag of your ilk is LAUGHABLE.

The lying jackass whines, "...I already reported my research on the claimed architectural credentials of David Banner. I could not verify them. It appears that David Banner was lying about his credentials."

God you're an idiot.

GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL, ASSHOLE: DAVID BANNER DOESN'T EXIST. THE OBJECTIVE OF THE DAVID BANNER RUSE WAS TO DEMONSTRATE WHAT A GULLIBLE AND INCOMPETENT FOOL YOU ARE--YOU DROOLIN' CRETIN.

And that's precisely why your ideas about the events of 11 September 2001 ARE LAUGHABLE. YOU'RE INCOMPETENT.

Got it, jackass?

Get out of here -- you Goddamned jackass. You're out of your league. You can't think, you can't do math, you know nothing about physics, you're utterly clueless where engineering is concerned and you couldn't pass a formal examination in elementary logic to save your worthless skin. The only thing you understand is dropping acid and sniffing glue.

Idiot.

 
At 10 August, 2013 16:28, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Oh, and I forgot to mention your number 1 "skill": Hijacking SLC's threads and changing the subject to -- who else? -- lyin' Brain Good.

Asshole.

 
At 10 August, 2013 21:37, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

"In September 2007, 911Truth.org commissioned Zogby International for a poll that concluded “51% of Americans ..."

Jon, seriously, who cares?

A Gallup Poll revealed that 32% of Americans believe that ghosts/spirits of dead people can return in certain situations.

If polls had any validity then I point to the same poll where 41% of Americans believe in ESP and the ability to see the future. By your rules 41% of Americans knew the 9/11 attacks were coming and did nothing.

All 9/11 Truth has done successfully is undermined the anti-war movement on every level. 9/11 Truth made it possible to stay as long as we did in Iraq, and has allowed us to continue the party in Afghanistan AND use Predator drones wherever we feel like it.

So my question is this: Why does 9/11 Truth ignore the blood on it's hands from its in focused, undisciplined,and amateurish methodology?

 
At 10 August, 2013 23:52, Blogger David Banner said...

I already reported my research on the claimed architectural credentials of David Banner. I could not verify them. It appears that David Banner was lying about his credentials.

OMG I'm just going to let this thing run with Brian. It's too good to be true.

Hook, line and SUCKER!

 
At 10 August, 2013 23:54, Blogger David Banner said...

But in all seriousness I am an Architect and I will not be an idiot and give out my real name.

Too many people have been killed by some nuts in the TM and I'm not ready to be 1 of their statistics.

 
At 11 August, 2013 08:20, Blogger Ian said...

Oh good, Brian's been released from the psychiatric ward and is back to posting spam about 9/11!

GutBleater, people who care about democracy and justice care what Americans think. You don't care about either one of them, so there's no point in trying to explain to you why better men do care.

Yes, people who care about justice and democracy do care what Americans think, which is why nobody cares about 9/11 truth. Tiny stale crackpot cults just aren't worthy of anyone's attention.

I already reported my research on the claimed architectural credentials of David Banner. I could not verify them. It appears that David Banner was lying about his credentials.

BTW, Brian, I'm going to finally give you the full name of my Uncle Steve, the independent engineer who endorsed the NIST reports. His name is Steve Rogers. Look for Steven Rogers, PhD, in the department of civil engineering at UCLA and tell me what you find.

Facts is facts, and the fact is that the official reports are incomplete and dishonest.

Brian, your delusions are not "facts", no matter how many times you repeat them. A fact is something demonstrable, like how you were banned from Wikipedia for vandalism.

So how is the 0.99 quantile of put volume evidencing activity consistent with advance knowledge inconsistent with a 99% certainty of insider trading? Are you accusing Dr. Zarembka of lying, or simply quibbling about semantics?

Isn't it hilarious when the mentally ill unemployed janitor who failed out of San Jose State starts using big-boy words like "quantile" and "put volume" when he's so stupid he can't even mop floors correctly, much less understand statistics or finance?

Brian, take it from someone with an MBA and a successful career in business: go back to babbling about magic thermite elves. You're in waaaaaay over your head. Leave this stuff to the adults.

 
At 11 August, 2013 08:51, Blogger David Banner said...

Brian should look up my colleague who I work with, his name is James Howlett nickname "Logan.

He's been working on metal for a long time and knows that certain metals can be indestructable to lasers and fire.

 
At 11 August, 2013 22:19, Blogger David Banner said...

Brian, I'm SHOCKED that you didn't look up my colleague for his credentials in metalergy.

 
At 11 August, 2013 22:50, Blogger snug.bug said...

Why would I waste time on a
liar?

 
At 11 August, 2013 23:32, Blogger snug.bug said...

MGF, people who care about democracy and justice care what Americans think. You don't care about either one of them, so there's no point in trying to explain to you why better men do care.

Your belief that because people believe in ESP, therefore they should have predicted 9/11 is an example of the kind of irrational sophistry you employ to prop up your illusions.

David Banner, your gloating over your belief that your lies fooled me is self-discrediting, and would be even if you had fooled me. But when you didn't even fool me, it's ludicrous.

Lyan, it is a proven fact that the official investigations are incomplete and dishonest. How is the 0.99 quantile of put volume evidencing activity consistent with advance knowledge inconsistent with a 99% certainty of insider trading? Where do you get the idea that I flunked out of San Jose State?


UtterFail, when did I try to frame an innocent man for a crime he didn't commit?

 
At 12 August, 2013 05:01, Blogger Ian said...

MGF, people who care about democracy and justice care what Americans think. You don't care about either one of them, so there's no point in trying to explain to you why better men do care.

Squeal squeal squeal!

Poor Brian. He's hysterical because 9/11 truth is dead, and so he goes off babbling about "democracy" or "justice" as if he has any concept of the words. This from the same guy who tried to have Pat and James ban me because I was humiliating him too much. So much for free speech and democracy!

Your belief that because people believe in ESP, therefore they should have predicted 9/11 is an example of the kind of irrational sophistry you employ to prop up your illusions.

As usual, Brian completely misses the point, but it gives him a chance to sound smart by typing "irrational sophistry". In reality, Brian's so stupid he lost his job mopping floors!

David Banner, your gloating over your belief that your lies fooled me is self-discrediting, and would be even if you had fooled me. But when you didn't even fool me, it's ludicrous.

Poor Brian. David Banner pwn3d him and made him look like the pathetic fool and ignoramus he is, and now he's just squealing hysterically over it.

Lyan, it is a proven fact that the official investigations are incomplete and dishonest.

Brian, the pathetic delusions of a failed janitor who lives with his parents are not "facts". You can squeal all you want about that, but it won't change things. Sorry.

How is the 0.99 quantile of put volume evidencing activity consistent with advance knowledge inconsistent with a 99% certainty of insider trading?

I told you, Brian, leave this one to the adults who understand finance. You don't have a clue what you're talking about, as usual.

Where do you get the idea that I flunked out of San Jose State?

You told us you failed out of San Jose State. That's part of the reason why you're unemployed and live with your parents. You can't even afford a decent haircut!

 
At 12 August, 2013 05:02, Blogger Ian said...

Hey Brian, have the widows had their questions answered yet?

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!

5 theightu

 
At 12 August, 2013 08:16, Blogger David Banner said...

Why would I waste time on a
liar?


Protecting my family from people like you, I'd hope you wasted your precious time knowing that you've been had.

But I'm an architect and you're just some idiot living off welfare and getting a government check every month.

 
At 12 August, 2013 08:18, Blogger David Banner said...

David Banner, your gloating over your belief that your lies fooled me is self-discrediting, and would be even if you had fooled me. But when you didn't even fool me, it's ludicrous.

Ok, I'll give you that. But since I'm on YOUR level you've been gloating about alot of other people for many years, especially William Rodriguez.

 
At 12 August, 2013 12:01, Blogger snug.bug said...

David, you flatter yourself to think your family needs protection from anyone.

As I explained, non-truthers have a murder rate much higher than that of truthers. As Jon explained, your belief that truthers are a fringe is a fantasy.

As of 2006, 30 million American adults could be considered 9/11 truthers. The number is probably far greater now. UtterFail lists a dozen murders for these 30 million people over ten years. In the same time period, 270 million non-truthers have committed 160,000 murders--13,000 times as many as the truthers. Non-truthers murder their fellow citizens at a rate of 5925 per million (over ten years). Truthers murder at a rate of 0.4 per million.
Thus non-truthers murder people at a rate 1,481,200 percent of that of the truthers.

I don't gloat about having exposed William Rodriguez as a liar and a fraud. I simply bring up the issue here because it shows the irrationality and cluelessness (and inability to admit error) of the doofusses here.

 
At 12 August, 2013 12:02, Blogger snug.bug said...

Lyan, if you took all the lies out of your claims there's be nothing left.

 
At 12 August, 2013 15:44, Blogger Ian said...

As of 2006, 30 million American adults could be considered 9/11 truthers. The number is probably far greater now.

This is the kind of of insightful analysis one gets from an unemployed janitor who was sniffing glue while he was supposed to be at his intro to stats class at San Jose State.

9/11 truth is dead, Brian. Face facts.

Lyan, if you took all the lies out of your claims there's be nothing left.

Squeal squeal squeal!

 
At 12 August, 2013 15:59, Blogger David Banner said...

David, you flatter yourself to think your family needs protection from anyone.

Then why are you trying to look me up on Google if you say that I need protection from people like you?

As I explained, non-truthers have a murder rate much higher than that of truthers. As Jon explained, your belief that truthers are a fringe is a fantasy.

So you're still saying that "debunkers" are the ones going around killing their own families and such and blaming it on the Truthers? Are you that so fucked up Brian? Did your mother accidently dropped you on your head as a baby?

 
At 12 August, 2013 16:01, Blogger David Banner said...

I don't gloat about having exposed William Rodriguez as a liar and a fraud. I simply bring up the issue here because it shows he irrationality and cluelessness (and inability to admit error) of the doofusses here.

Yes you do gloat and you even said that Willie and Kevin were having a threesome with Carol.

You bring it up cause it's all you have left.

 

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