Still Confusing Fantasy With Reality

I had just finished talking about conspiracy theorist Richard Grove and his movie fantasies, when I noticed on the Loose Change forum that he had just done an interview of Avery and Bermas for his new podcast, titled "9/11 Synchronicity". Well it appears, that the Patriot was just the start. Now apparently James Bond is involved:

Grove: They want to start these wars they want to secure the oil, they want all this stuff. I mean that is why they punch themselves in the face. Isn't that what they did in Fight Club? Ed Norton punches himself in the face, and then he gets what he wants.

That's the Hegelian dialectic. That is exactly the control structure that they use and like I said dude, it's all in Hollywood films. All these little things that they do, they put out right in front of us, but we don't think they're real, because that's part of the film.

Look at Goldeneye, look at all those James Bond films. I mean. There is a lot of conditioning that comes from the Hollywood front end of the Pentagon agenda. I mean, you could agree that there are movies before 9/11 that seeded in our minds... look at the Siege. The Siege came out before 9/11. Immediately after 9/11 people stereotypically knew who to blame right after they said, it's Osama, because you know, they have seen it in the movie. They're New Yorkers, they have been affected. They are preconditioned with this traumatic sequence, then it kind of happened to them. Just like in the movie, right? Even with the potential of martical law. You know, Bruce Willis coming in. Just before I went to sleep last night, I was watching Die Hard With a Vengeance, on your 90 inch television.

Hmm, that is 3 Bruce Willis movies. And they haven't even mentioned Hudson Hawk yet...

Bermas: It's not a real TV, it's a projector, but yeah.

Grove: But I was thinking, how ironic that they make this movie in New York. And the original one, well the second one, happened at Dulles Airport. Right? So out of a couple of Die Hard movies you basically have part of the scenario that happened on 9/11. And with some sort of truck left behind with gold, then you think Die Hard With A Vengeance that they took it up to the tunnel, the dumptrucks right?

Bermas? : Yeah

Grove: Personally I think they took it out on the Path train, because the Path train went right under World Trade Center 6.

Bermas: Yeah, you mentioned this.

Grove: Where there is a big hole.

Bermas: So why do you think the truck is there? Out of curiousity.

Grove: A distraction. The reason this other stuff is there.

Bermas: Really you think that is a distraction. You don't think that 's just a convoy? I heard that.

Grove: Think about it. Decompartmentalize, if you have a convoy of trucks. How many drivers that know about the gold? If you put it on the train, you have one guy that knows.

$167 billion worth of gold on a single subway train? Wow, I have never been so impressed with the efficiencies of public transportation. Bermas disagrees:

Bermas: Yeah, but you still need, you still need people to load it in. It's gold, it's heavy. You can't just use robots and computers. You have to have man, manpower on that one. I just think it is a unit in there, that's done a drill, and now all of a sudden it is enacted into real time. They have done a drill where they have to ship something away. It was quick. And now they say, the target is the gold, we don't know what is going to happen to these buildings, we need to get them out. And they all have signed a confidentiality agreement, they couldn't even talk about the drills they have done before. So this is just a live drill for them.

So they moved approximately 18,000 tons of gold out from under the World Trade Center, in a little over an hour from the time of the attacks to the first collapse? Well, hey, they did practice it beforehand... And they signed a confidentiality agreement too!