These People Watch Way Too Many Movies

We have discussed several times how the conspiracy theorists often confuse fantasy and reality. Loose Change after all, by Dylan Avery's own admissions started out as a fiction movie. By all indications it ended up that way too. This guy, Richard Andrew Grove, however, sets some new standards regarding this. He is catching on in the conspiracy community as a "whistle blower", ranting on with a bunch of incoherent theories about banks, corporations and databases. If you have a few hours to kill, check out this article on his website, where he appears to be playing "A Beautiful Mind: The Home Game". I must confess, personally I wasn't able to get through the whole thing.

In any case, this is him in a discussion at the Chicago 9/11 Conference, from the 13 minute mark:

Grove: If you have ever seen Goodfellas, there is a guy who comes up to Paul and says ”I want you to come in with me on this restaurant”, and Paul says “Why me, I don’t know anything about restaurants?” They take it over, they max out all its credit, they burn it down, they collect the insurance.

You can learn everything you need to know about 9/11 by watching Hollywood movies. Die Hard With a Vengeance, watch Money Train, you guys ever see Money Train? Where they steal the money and use the trains underground to take off. There is a ton of different movies. There is a ton of allusion to 9/11 in Hollywood films before 9/11.

Unknown Speaker: Three Days of the Condor

Grove: Three Days of the Condor, the Patriot. Mel Gibson weighs a rocking chair, it weighs 9 pounds 11 ounces. I ask you, has anyone ever seen a rocking chair that weighs 9 pounds? It must have been like this big. But Mel Gibson is hanging it, and weighing the rocking chair at the beginning of the Patriot, and if you turn on the closed captions it says “9 pounds 11 ounces perfect”.

Look at Independence Day when the clock is ticking down and it will blow up different stuff, nine eleven. Eleven oh one seconds. If you look at Long Kiss Goodnight with Geena Davis. We have plenty of allusion there to people being unemployed from the Cold War, attacking America, it is basically the same premise. Look at the Lone Gunmen. It is H. W. Bush and his posse, then you have the Long Gunmen film which came out before 9/11.

Hmm, so Mel Gibson is behind it?













He then manages to connect this all with the JFK assassination, and then rambles on for another 20 minutes. I guess his tinfoil hat isn't working.