Tuesday, August 29, 2006

Markyx Strikes Yet Again!

This time it's not a movie but a text document, which means that Chuck Sheen will complain it's too hard. This one's entitled "Frequently Stupid Theories" and rebuts many of the more insipid theories that the 9-11 Denial Movement comes up with. Of course, we all know he's going to have to update this often, since they come up with a new stupid theory almost daily.

41 Comments:

At 29 August, 2006 15:03, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

Markyx newest "compilation" is quite good. It is a little shy on the meat, in some areas, but more than adequate in others. Like you said, it is something he will likely be revising (though not as often as LC is I hope...:) )

 
At 29 August, 2006 18:32, Blogger MarkyX said...

I didn't want to put too much effort on this. I simply let the sources speak for itself as opposed to make up stupid crap like Loose Change.

I don't really plan on revising this too often, if ever. I'm looking for common stupid theories, not stupid theories.

 
At 29 August, 2006 18:36, Blogger Avery Dylan said...

Like hey man, I mean, Loose Change 1, Loose Change 2, Loose Change Final Edition!

Collect them all!

 
At 29 August, 2006 19:18, Blogger nesNYC said...

Why are these "Marks" in love with PDF files?

Anyway, here's and easy debunk of a "debunker":

I have never seen melted steel in a building fire, but I've seen a lot of twisted, warped,
bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but
when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks.


Ah-HA! So this twisted, warped and bent and sagging steel created a symmetrical collapse? Can't have it both ways kiddies.

 
At 29 August, 2006 19:23, Blogger Alex said...

uh, yeah, that's pretty much exactly how it happened. whattayamean can't have it both ways?

 
At 29 August, 2006 19:28, Blogger nesNYC said...

Heheh..

In essence then, the towers did not collapse like trees because the structures, despite their strength, were too fragile to
sustain such motions.


Now the towers are too weak to topple over, meanwhile one video clearly show the top part toppling over and disintegrating into dust in mid air. Where the heck do they find these brainiacks?

 
At 29 August, 2006 19:29, Blogger nesNYC said...

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At 29 August, 2006 19:30, Blogger nesNYC said...

whattayamean can't have it both ways?

warp <> symmetrical

Comprende?

 
At 29 August, 2006 19:34, Blogger nesNYC said...

I boy, nothing but lies, lies, lies...

Now here we have someone who's company is complicit in the "clean-up" of the 9/11 crime scene admitting he "knew" the buildings were going to fall, duh..

The best for last, Mark Loizeaux, president of Controlled Demolition Incorporated.
… only one said that he knew immediately, upon learning, from TV, of the planes' hitting
the buildings, that the towers were going to fall. This was Mark Loizeaux, the president
of Controlled Demolition Incorporated, a Maryland-based family business that
specializes in reducing tall buildings to manageable pieces of rubble. "Within a
nanosecond," he told me. "I said, 'It's coming down. And the second tower will fall
first, because it was hit lower down.' "

 
At 29 August, 2006 19:36, Blogger default.xbe said...

Now the towers are too weak to topple over, meanwhile one video clearly show the top part toppling over and disintegrating into dust in mid air. Where the heck do they find these brainiacks?

uh, yeah, why do you think the top part broke apart when it started to tip over? because it wasnt strong enough to hold together while being twisted sideways

warp <> symmetrical

Comprende?


wrong again, if all the collumns warp it will still be symetrical, but as you already pointed out already the initial instant of the south towers collapse was not symetrical, but once the collapse started the remaining columns couldnt support the weight and all failed

 
At 29 August, 2006 19:41, Blogger default.xbe said...

Now here we have someone who's company is complicit in the "clean-up" of the 9/11 crime scene admitting he "knew" the buildings were going to fall, duh..

typical CTer logic, anyone who disagrees with me is "in on it"

 
At 29 August, 2006 19:44, Blogger nesNYC said...

Yet another biggy..

Cahill said. Instead, fuel oil from the WTC’s generators seeped into the ground, ignited and slowly consumed the debris
stacked on top of it. As the piles were peeled open, oxygen stoked the underground fire, which burned for weeks.


This is in reference to molten metal found a the bottom of the debris piles, and they admit:

This is perhaps one of the tougher theories to break down, since there is no simple
explanation.


RIGHT! Not even NIST went there. Now let's think about this closely. If this was indeed a fuel oil spill, wouldn't have there been pockets of gas in and around the debris pile creating and explosive situation? Did anyone ever worry that this was the case? In all the videos of the clean up, I don't see anyone worrying about that spilt oil. Throw the above theory in the recycle bin.

 
At 29 August, 2006 19:47, Blogger nesNYC said...

typical CTer logic, anyone who disagrees with me is "in on it"

No, Controlled Demolition Inc. was also suspected to be in on the OK City failed controlled demolition and promptly cleaned up after themselves and removed the evidence there too.

 
At 29 August, 2006 19:55, Blogger default.xbe said...

If this was indeed a fuel oil spill, wouldn't have there been pockets of gas in and around the debris pile creating and explosive situation?

no, oil doesnt explode, it just burns, and much liek the jet fuel it wouldnt have served to fuel the fire, just spread it


No, Controlled Demolition Inc. was also suspected to be in on the OK City failed controlled demolition and promptly cleaned up after themselves and removed the evidence there too.

let me guess, you have no evidence of this either

 
At 29 August, 2006 19:58, Blogger nesNYC said...

"The hijackers required only the shallow understanding of the aircraft," agrees Ken Hertz,
an airline pilot rated on the 757/767. "In much the same way that a person needn't be an
experienced physician in order to perform CPR or set a broken bone."


LOL! What about navigation skills after you've taken the airplane halfway into Ohio and turn it back around and precisely hit your target on the first floor! No navigation beacons either! Damn, that Allah was good wasn't he? :D

 
At 29 August, 2006 19:59, Blogger nesNYC said...

oil doesnt explode

I'm not talking about the oil I'm talking about the fumes genius. That’s a precautionary measure when you have a fuel spill of any kind. Do you mean to tell me oil doesn't have any fumes assoicated with it? Double duh..

 
At 29 August, 2006 20:02, Blogger nesNYC said...

let me guess, you have no evidence of this either

OK City was also an inside job. Everybody knows that.

 
At 29 August, 2006 20:03, Blogger James B. said...

LOL! What about navigation skills after you've taken the airplane halfway into Ohio and turn it back around and precisely hit your target on the first floor! No navigation beacons either! Damn, that Allah was good wasn't he? :D


Hey genius, ever hear of a little thing called "GPS"?

 
At 29 August, 2006 20:08, Blogger nesNYC said...

Hey genius, ever hear of a little thing called "GPS"?

Where on the cockpit do you dial in the GPS coordinates? Oh, and how does GPS help you hit the first floor and not crash on the ground?

 
At 29 August, 2006 20:16, Blogger default.xbe said...

LOL! What about navigation skills after you've taken the airplane halfway into Ohio and turn it back around and precisely hit your target on the first floor! No navigation beacons either! Damn, that Allah was good wasn't he? :D

what about the beacons at dulles and reagan airports?

I'm not talking about the oil I'm talking about the fumes genius. That’s a precautionary measure when you have a fuel spill of any kind. Do you mean to tell me oil doesn't have any fumes assoicated with it? Double duh..

the fumes are from evaporating fuel, oil doesnt evaporate at room temperature (and it wouldnt be from the fires either because at that point the oil would be burning off, not evaporating)

OK City was also an inside job. Everybody knows that.

as i said, no evidence

Where on the cockpit do you dial in the GPS coordinates?

apathoid can probably back me up, but ims ure some planes have gps units in them (and theres also handhelp gps recievers im sure he coudl have used too if he wanted)

Oh, and how does GPS help you hit the first floor and not crash on the ground?

the gps doesnt do that, the pilot does (and before you go itno some spiel about how difficult it would be hit exactly on the first floor, how do you know he was TRYING to hit the first floor?)

 
At 29 August, 2006 20:16, Blogger Alex said...

Oil doesn't creat fumes Einstein.

And the GPS controls are part of the flight computer. They could even set a destination coordinate and hit the autopilot button. Let the plane fly itself untill it gets within, say, 5k of the target, then shut off the autopilot and crash it. I know an idiot like you would never be able to figure it out, but by all accounts the hijackers were quite intelligent, and were qualified pilots as well, most if not all with a commercial rating, meaning they knew ahead of time how to operate the flight computer.

 
At 29 August, 2006 20:22, Blogger James B. said...

Read the flight data recorder report recently released by the NTSB. He just selected the coordinates for Reagan National, which is only 2 miles away from the Pentagon.

This is called doing actual research, you may want to try it sometime.

 
At 29 August, 2006 20:34, Blogger Lying_Dylan said...

(chir) Shhhhhhh (chirp) nesNYC is emailing Charlie Sheen to find out what to say next (chirp) (chirp)

 
At 29 August, 2006 20:46, Blogger Lying_Dylan said...

Charlie Sheen is GOING TO BE PISSED!!!

 
At 29 August, 2006 20:46, Blogger nesNYC said...

what about the beacons at dulles and reagan airports?

Then they would have hit the control towers over there and not the Pentagon.

 
At 29 August, 2006 20:47, Blogger nesNYC said...

(and it wouldnt be from the fires either because at that point the oil would be burning off, not evaporating)

Read the piece again, they say the oil didn't burn until it was slowly uncovered by the clean up.

 
At 29 August, 2006 20:49, Blogger nesNYC said...

how do you know he was TRYING to hit the first floor?

Just admit it, you're a "coincidence" theorist, admit it! :D

 
At 29 August, 2006 20:52, Blogger nesNYC said...

He just selected the coordinates for Reagan National, which is only 2 miles away from the Pentagon.

It still doesn't explain how hit the first floor of the US military headquarters. 2 miles away? At the distance he was, a half of a degree of deviation would have him landing in Maryland. It’s called using your common sense and refusing to believe prepared media propaganda.

 
At 29 August, 2006 20:52, Blogger default.xbe said...

Then they would have hit the control towers over there and not the Pentagon.

i would have thought even youd be smart enough to disable autopilot before then, but i guess not

Read the piece again, they say the oil didn't burn until it was slowly uncovered by the clean up.

it says the fires got more oxygen, it doesnt say the oil was fueling them at that point

Just admit it, you're a "coincidence" theorist, admit it! :D

1 million sperm, and your the one that made it through, talk about a coincidence

 
At 29 August, 2006 20:53, Blogger default.xbe said...

It still doesn't explain how hit the first floor of the US military headquarters. 2 miles away? At the distance he was, a half of a degree of deviation would have him landing in Maryland. It’s called using your common sense and refusing to believe prepared media propaganda.

common sense says you cna see the worlds largest office building alot more than 2 miles away and even a mediocre pilot could point his plane at it

 
At 29 August, 2006 21:03, Blogger James B. said...

At the distance he was, a half of a degree of deviation would have him landing in Maryland. It’s called using your common sense and refusing to believe prepared media propaganda.


GPS is accurate to 5 meters anywhere in the world. The Pentagon is one of the world's largest building. How could he miss?

My God you are stupid. You are just posting as a parody, right?

 
At 29 August, 2006 21:40, Blogger Richard said...

It's also shaped like a pentagon. Kinda hard to miss it.

 
At 29 August, 2006 21:56, Blogger default.xbe said...

At the distance he was, a half of a degree of deviation would have him landing in Maryland. It’s called using your common sense and refusing to believe prepared media propaganda.

he forgets that half a degree od deviation will take a car into oncoming traffic within 5 city blocks

but i guess all those supposed "safe drivers" are just media propaganda too

 
At 29 August, 2006 22:01, Blogger apathoid said...

Just when I thought Nessie couldnt possibly be any dumber....BAM!! He outdoes himself yet again...

Then they would have hit the control towers over there and not the Pentagon.

At the distance he was, a half of a degree of deviation would have him landing in Maryland. It’s called using your common sense and refusing to believe prepared media propaganda.

 
At 30 August, 2006 02:29, Blogger Cassiopeia said...

Dear me Nesnyc. I can't but imagine what you'd achieve if you turned your efforts to something more fruitful and productive. Like having a life for example. Give it up. You lost, and you will continue to lose. Nobody serious is with you on this one.

Oh and Markyx, great job. May CT'ers read it and weep.
(They won't of course, they'll just apply another layer of foil to their shiny chapeau).

 
At 30 August, 2006 03:16, Blogger shawn said...

You will never find a human being dumber than nesnyc.

 
At 30 August, 2006 03:21, Blogger shawn said...

Just admit it, you're a "coincidence" theorist, admit it! :D

Life is a series of coincidences. Hell, humanity evolving was left to chance.

A bunc of coincidences isn't a conspiracy - it's a bunch of coincidences.

 
At 30 August, 2006 07:06, Blogger Avery Dylan said...

Like hey man, I mean, its simple -

Coincidences? They all tie together.

Ray Charles is god.

God is love,

Love is blind

Ray Charles is blind

Ray Charles is God.

 
At 30 August, 2006 07:25, Blogger rocketdoodle said...

nesnyc-

You're obviously proud of the fact that you can get a rise out of the rest of us, but in the end, that only makes you a troll--not an effective debater.

Honestly, you've only got two posts on your own blog and you haven't updated since May. If you had anything real to say, or if you had a single original idea, you should go post it over there.

Instead, you're spewing your dogmarrhea all over this blog. I mean, with all the posts you've made, you can't see anyone else's point of view? Not once did anyone make an argument with which you could find some kind of common ground?

I try not to even read your posts anymore. If your intention was to sway people's opinions, then you've failed miserably. If your intention was to come off like a retarded parrot, then have a cracker, Polly.

 
At 30 August, 2006 08:09, Blogger JohnReb said...

Don't forget the beacons at Newark Airport, just across the Hudson river from the Towers. And those were even easier to eyeball than the Pentagon, I'd bet.

There would have had to have been fires in the wreckage to begin with. Oxygen doesn't cause oil to spontaneously combust. It only allows a smoldering oil fire to get hotter.

 
At 30 August, 2006 12:03, Blogger Sword of Truth said...

Ah-HA! So this twisted, warped and bent and sagging steel created a symmetrical collapse? Can't have it both ways kiddies.

Speaking of not having it both ways, none of the collapses were symmetrical. You stupid cross burning sister-humper.

 

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