McKinney Captured by the Jooos!

Heheh, once again her "humanitarian" efforts come a-cropper:

Today Israeli Occupation Forces attacked and boarded the Free Gaza Movement boat, the SPIRIT OF HUMANITY, abducting 21 human rights workers from 11 countries, including Noble laureate Mairead Maguire and former U.S. Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney (see below for a complete list of passengers). The passengers and crew are being forcibly dragged toward Israel.

Well, let's hope they're being dragged across burning hot sands. Of course, I assume what the writer means is that their boat is being towed towards Israel with them aboard. As you may recall, Cynthia claimed the last boat she was on was intentionally rammed by the Israelis. I'm beginning to think that the safest place in the world to be is NOT on a boat with McNinney.

This Sounds Like a Stunt

A comic book writer claims he was harassed by TSA officials over his script for a new comic book:

Comics writer Mark Sable was detained by security at Los Angeles International Airport because he was carrying a script for a new issue of his comic miniseries, Unthinkable. Unthinkable follows members of a government think tank that was tasked with coming up with 9/11-type "unthinkable" terrorist scenarios that now are coming true. Sable wrote about his experience saying, "...I was flagged at the gate for 'extra screening.' I was subjected to not one, but two invasive searches of my person and belongings. TSA agents then 'discovered' the script for Unthinkable #3. They sat and read the script while I stood there, without any personal items, identification or ticket, which had all been confiscated. The minute I saw the faces of the agents, I knew I was in trouble. The first page of the Unthinkable script mentioned 9/11, terror plots, and the fact that the (fictional) world had become a police state.

I don't know much about Sable, but this definitely sounds like a publicity stunt. "See, I was writing about how the world had become a police state, and the TSA proved it!" Except of course that Sable somehow lived to tell his tale instead of spending the rest of his life in a FEMA concentration camp.

Celebrity Twit Twitters Troof

I confess I had not heard of Heidi Montag, probably because my definition of "celebrity" requires someone who's done more than appear on a reality TV show.



As the old joke goes, she looks like she was poured into that bikini and forgot to say "when". But perhaps typically for someone who has gotten ahead on looks and not substance, she's a dimwit.

@prisonplanet thank you for finding and exposing the truth about the New World Order and Global Elite! Jesus is coming! God bless u!

everyone follow @prisonplanet!

check out @infowars!

Hat Tip: Patrick from Cincinnati (in the comments)

Update: Heidi's been tweeting back and forth with celebrity blogger Perez Hilton. I don't know much about Perez either, but he very much comes off the sane one in their exchange. Noting her dueling passions at the moment for Jesus Christ and Alex Jones, Perez suggests:

@heidimontag I think you need to be reading more of the Bible and less of Infowars.

and:

@heidimontag P.S. Did you stop smoking weed? Are you going through marijuana withdrawals? Why have you been acting so strange?

And when Heidi tweets back that she loves him:

@heidimontag I love you too, when you're not scaring me. xoxo

Drunk Spies for 9/11 Truth?

For pure entertainment value, here is the espionage fantasies of a 9/11 Blogger poster:

I have had the honor of knowing people from the intelligence community, and in law enforcement. Theirs’ is a unique set of ideals, humor, and thought process. I am also keenly aware that alcoholism runs rampant in the intelligence community, due to the trappedness many of them feel. Once you’ve taken the bait, and entered FBI or CIA, there is no getting out. You know too much, and when stuck with this reality, alcohol seems to help one escape.

Doesn't seem to have much respect for the people he claims to want the support of. He continues with this familiar theme:

For some years, now, I have seen the operatives at work on the websites. It surely must be getting old to them, too, this daily lolling battle. Sometimes, reading their overall actions, there is a small note of not really believing in this. After all; who is this fight benefiting? Your higher-ups? What does it do for them? The compartmentalization of both people and agendas can never be a satisfying existence. And taken to its logical conclusion, it doesn’t benefit humanity in the long run. The days of good-guys/bad-guys have lost a lot of glimmer, and to many, no longer makes any sense. To have the courage to squarely see what the higher-ups are doing is what made you the agent you are.

Because of course everyone who blogs or comments on the truth movement on the Internet must be a government agent.

I will comment more on this issue as soon as I finish this bottle of Jack Daniels and get permission from my case officer

The Birchers

This is from a few days ago, but I was on vacation so I am catching up. we have commented on the past about the similarities between the truthers and the right-wing paranoids in the John Birch Society. This profile in the NY Times makes that even clearer.

Yet for others, the John Birch Society is urgently relevant to the matters of today, in its support of secure borders and limited government, its distrust of the Federal Reserve and the United Nations, and its belief in a conspiracy to merge Mexico, Canada and the United States.

This so-called North American Union, it asserts, is part of a larger plot by an amorphous, amoral group of powerful elite — including but not limited to the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission and the Rockefellers — to take over planet Earth. Call it the New World Order.

Sound familiar?

About Those Diagonally Cut Columns

That is a fine piece of debunking. Hat tip to dwlan in the comments.

Troof Petition Submitted to NYC

The comedy continues. NYCCAN claims to have submitted 52,000 signatures to the city council. There's no discussion of whether they made any efforts at determining what percentage of the signatures will turn out to be valid. Lots of people will sign petitions with names like D. Duck, or will turn out to not be residents of the five boroughs of NYC.

So my first assumption is that 52,000 signatures is not enough to guarantee they will have sufficient valid signatures. Personally I'm hoping that they succeed in getting on the ballot. Heck, I'll even pray that it passes, because the further this thing gets, the more epic the inevitable failure will be. Remember, the "plan" is that the investigation will be funded to the tune of $50 million via private contributions, heh. This is the gang that could only sell 800 copies of a $20 book during the "Week of Truth".

Cynthia McKinney and Daryl Bradford Smith

Wow, if you need to get your quota of "Jews and Zionists did 9-11", it's all here in this incredible interview between McNutty and McNumbnuts.

Learn that:

70% of the Bush Administration was Jewish.
70% of the Barry Soweto Administration is Jewish (for those unaware, there is a kooky theory that Obama's real last name is Soetero, because that was the name of his adoptive father for a few years when he was a kid. But Smith even blows the pronunciation of the name, claims to have seen a birth certificate with that name on it, which would be quite a bit of news to the Birthers, and then piles hilarity on hilarity by saying that he got that name from Obama's Kenyan grandmother. Earth to Smith: Obama's Kenyan grandmother is Grandma Obama.)
Janet Napolitano is Jewish. Yep, that clever Italian name didn't fool Daryl for a moment.

Of course, the most ridiculous part is that McKinney has any reputation left to soil by appearing on Holocaust Denier and all-around anti-Semite DBS's radio show. Adam Holland has been covering McNinney's nonsense for those of us who haven't been paying attention.

Jon Gold and Cindy Sheehan

Not much entertainment value to this video; it's a pretty dull, "Cindy's a hero of mine," and, "Jon Gold is a true patriot," duet.

That's Entertainment

A grad student at Cal State Long Beach writes about Truther and actress Marion Cotillard

Cotillard admits, “I have a tendency to often share the point of view of the conspiracy theory. You are shown that other towers of the same kind that were hit by planes, that burnt … There is a tower, I think that it’s in Spain that burnt for 24 hours … before collapsing … It never collapsed! None of these towers collapsed. And, over there, in a few minutes, the thing collapses.”

Yes, the endlessly rehashed Windsor Towers incident. The building was fundamentally different from the WTC in that it was unoccupied (thus no live load), and it had a concrete core. The steel exoskeleton of the building did collapse; what survived was the concrete.

But for real entertainment, check out the comments. Architects & engineers agree with Marion! Scientists recently published a peer-reviewed paper (I guess they aren't going to give that one up)! One commenter channels Kevin Barrett:

Gerry Wachovsky, mouthpeice for the neocons. Your not a skeptic Gerry, you are just a stupid idiot, that knows nothing about 911 Truth. And as a stupid idiot, you look like a food when you try to write something that 'debunks' a movment. The 911 Truth movment, Gerry, you stupid ass, is trying to find out the truth. And when the truth is found, Gerry, you ass, you will be rounded up like the evil idiot you are, and strung from the nearest gallows.

Kook to Sue Da Joooos

Heheh, gotta love her stones, if not her common sense:

Lesley Hughes claims the defendants made untrue and defamatory accusations that she was anti-Semitic. She says that, as a result, former federal Liberal leader Stéphane Dion revoked her candidacy in the Manitoba riding of Kildonan-St. Paul last September.

Hughes acknowledges in her lawsuit that she wrote a column in a Winnipeg newspaper in 2002 that suggested Israeli businesses in the World Trade Center had advance knowledge of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

Here's a terrific post from a Canadian blogger going into more details about Hughes' Trooferism.

Super Sekrit Magico NanoThermite

Nanothermite continues to be a magical substance, imbued with any properties you desire. This is a particularly bizarre blogpost on the subject. E. E. Cummings with a nanothermite fetish.

its got the signature of Military Industrial Complex written all over it. think of how expensive and difficult it must be. its a sort of 21st century nuclear material. tremendous energy, yet not radioactive. but alas, it seems to leave a telltale SIGNATURE in the obliterated area. oh well you cant have it all.

who was producing significant quantities of nanothermite 7 years ago? when 7 years later, the military seems still not to know how to do it exactly. see the last link below, a call for research on how to manufacture it in larger quantities by the navy.

heh. again a case of "left hand doesnt know what right hand is doing". military is compartmentalized. I bet there is some super secret segment that figured out how to manufacture the nanothermite, but then classified it. then the navy gets a scent of nanothermite but doesnt know that maybe, its already being mfg'd in significant quantities elsewhere. doncha love our govt?

Fitzgerald Update

Not much:

On Tuesday, prosecutors requested more time to review an evaluation of Fitzgerald by doctors at the Colorado State Hospital in Pueblo. The case was continued for three weeks.

Well, Well, Well, Another Troofer Murderer

And apparently the first. Check out this interview with former FEMA videographer Kurt Sonnenfeld:

We are asked to believe that all four of the “indestructible” black boxes of the two jets that struck the twin towers were never found because they were completely vaporized, yet I have footage of the rubber wheels of the landing gear nearly undamaged, as well as the seats, parts of the fuselage and a jet turbine that were absolutely not vaporized. This being said, I do find it rather odd that such objects could have survived fairly intact the type of destruction that turned most of the Twin Towers into thin dust. And I definitely harbor some doubts about the authenticity of the “jet” turbine, far too small to have come from one of the Boeings!

What happened with Building 7 is incredibly suspicious. I have video that shows how curiously small the rubble pile was, and how the buildings to either side were untouched by Building Seven when it collapsed. It had not been hit by an airplane; it had suffered only minor injuries when the Twin Towers collapsed, and there were only small fires on a couple of floors. There’s no way that building could have imploded the way it did without controlled demolition. Yet the collapse of Building 7 was hardly mentioned by the mainstream media and suspiciously ignored by the 911 Commission.

During the interview it is noted that Sonnenfeld is currently living in exile in Argentina; here's his version of why:

Initially, the false accusation against me was completely irrational, and I was totally destroyed by it. It is incredibly difficult to have suffered the loss of someone you love to suicide, but to then be accused of it is too much to bear. The case was dismissed based on a mountain of evidence that overwhelmingly absolved me (Nancy, my wife, had left behind a suicide note and a journal of suicidal writings ; she had a family history of suicide ; etc.). The prosecution was 100% sure of my innocence before requesting the dismissal of charge.

Here's a discussion of the case from the Rocky Mountain News, which is notably less sympathetic to Sonnenfeld's claims of innocence:

But Kurt Sonnenfeld, 39, developed a drug and drinking problem that undermined the marriage during its final year, some friends and relatives of Nancy's said.

Nancy Sonnenfeld, 36, filed for legal separation in November, after returning from a trip she and her husband had taken to Thailand.

After she said he bought and smoked heroin during the trip, she moved into a separate hotel and planned to return home, said Denver police Detective Kenneth Gurule. Sonnenfeld had his wife's passport, so she obtained a duplicate from the U.S. embassy and left him behind.

Still, the Sonnenfelds spent New Year's Eve together in an effort, friends and family speculated, to save their marriage.

But the reconciliation attempt ended in tragedy when the couple returned to their Congress Park home about 1 a.m. Sonnenfeld would say he was checking his e-mail when he heard a gunshot. His wife, he said, committed suicide.

Denver police did not buy it. And a week ago Thursday, Kurt Sonnenfeld was ordered in Denver District Court to stand trial for the murder of his wife.

What happened next was investigators for his defense supposedly found what might have been a suicide note:

Prosecutors wouldn't comment on specific reasons for the dismissal, but the defense investigation found a note written by Nancy Sonnenfeld which police had not taken into evidence, said public defender Carrie Thompson.

"Our investigators found a letter written in Nancy's own hand consistent with a suicide letter, although it was very cryptic," Thompson said.

She said the letter said, "What is more beautiful than love and death?" with the word "love" scratched out. "Kurt, please get help." The letter was found behind a framed photograph of Kurt Sonnenfeld.

After being released, Sonnenfeld left for Argentina. Shortly after his release, his former cellmates told authorities that he had confessed to murdering his wife, and charges have been refiled. Sonnenfeld has been living in Argentina ever since, and has remarried while extradition proceedings were underway.

Sonnenfeld now (of course) claims that this is all a plot to get footage that he took at the World Trade Center which would prove inside jobby-job. But police are not amused:

That drew a sharp rebuke Tuesday from Chief Denver District Attorney Michelle Amico.

"I have heard that nonsense from him . . . but then he has nothing to back it up," she said.

His 9-11 Truth stuff is pretty much the usual BS; he claims that FEMA arrived in New York the day before the attacks, which is a misreading of a comment a FEMA worker made on a TV interview.

Lineup Announced for Les Fest 2009

Hoo-boy are some people going to be grumbling when they catch sight of the 9-11-09 festivities.

Daniel Sunjata - Activist and Star of FX's Rescue Me

Richard Gage - Founder of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth

Erik Lawyer - Founder of Firefighters for 9/11 Truth

Ellen Brown - Creator of the popular blog Web of Debt.

CITIZEN INVESTIGATION TEAM - Aldo Marquis and the PentaCon film project

William Pepper, Esq. - Prolific Attorney and Author.

Kevin Barrett - 9/11 Truth Activist and author of Truth Jihad.

CIT, and Barrett? These guys just don't seem to understand how easy they make it for us.

Another "Fictional" Troofer Film

This one features Dylan Avery (shown briefly at about 1:37). Looks like a good cure for insomnia.

A Brand New Sacred List

We've talked about these Sacred Lists before; a Troofer will find a list somewhere which shows something (or doesn't show something) and therefore, 9-11 was an inside job! Some examples include the oft-cited fact that Todd Beamer (for example) does not show up on the Social Security Death Index, and therefore he isn't dead and so the official story cannot be true.

Of course, a cursory glance at the SSDI reveals that they do not list people who have minor dependents who are receiving survivor benefits; it is well-known that the Beamers had two small children (with a third one on the way) on 9-11. But not to the Troofers; they apparently believe that the SSDI is some sort of sacred list, and while the government was willing to kill thousands on 9-11, it was not going to alter a sacred list in order to do so.

The latest sacred list is a list of flights that the doomed planes on 9-11 had undergone prior to that disastrous morning.

According to a Freedom of Information Act reply from the U.S. Bureau of Transportation Statistics, the last known pre-9/11 flights for three of the four aircraft involved in the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 took place in December, 2000, nine months before the attacks. No pre-9/11 flight information is available for these planes during 2001.

Now, you know how it is, to a sane person this indicates that the airlines filed their information on a yearly basis, and thus the 2001 flight information for each of those planes was never filed. But to the wackos, it's evidence that the planes used on 9-11 were being outfitted with special gear for 9-11; remote control anybody?

But again, this belief requires you to believe that the government, while designing this incredibly complex plot, either forgot to do the minor bits of paperwork that would cover their trail, or revolted in horror at the prospect of putting "false" information on a Sacred List.

The JREFers have already torn this to shreds; MikeW notes:

Go to the BTS inquiry page.

Check "All statistics".

Flight 175 regularly flew out of San Francisco, so choose that as the Origin Airport.

Choose United Airlines as the airline.

Check September for the month.

Check All Days to see information for all of September.

Check 2001 for the year.

Click Submit. And wait (that's a big query).

When it comes back, use your browser to search for Flight 175's tail number, N612UA. And look! It flew out of SF on the 1st, the 5th, the 7th, and the 10th, and (surprise surprise) there are no further flights.

Yet Another Loose Change Movie

Dylan promises to donate some of the money to the first responders. Of course earlier he said that he would donate more than the creators of United 93 did, a claim which conveniently disappeared down the memory hole.

Luke Gets A Taste of His Own Medicine

Not the greatest video (it's hard to hear what they're saying), but the irony of the situation is terrific; it's like Ashton Kutcher getting punk'd.

Alex and Hoover

The latest superstar of 9-11 Troof, who has done nothing more than threaten to file a lawsuit, appears with AJ. Hoover's got a website where you can contribute money to help fund his proposed (but as yet unfiled) suit. Conveniently, you can make the checks payable to him personally, or just mail cash.

I can tell you that in the NWO lunchroom, this topic is all the rage. We're convinced that this lawsuit is going to bring down the tyrants. Yes, I know I said that about Core of Corruption and that book by the unforgettable what's his name, but this time I'm serious.

Barry Jennings' and Hess's Accounts Corroborated

Superb job of debunking by JREFer AlienEntity!

Barrett & Harrit Promo Video

I love that "Hang 'Em High" is given top billing.

Slimeball Punk Who Beat Up Girl In Wheelchair Not Guilty

Hey, you know the jury probably found his explanation that Mr Lovetro used his daughter as a battering ram more convincing.

He's a kid, so I hope he will be chastened a bit by the legal system even if it did not find him guilty. Because he was not found guilty I will not reprint his name here. Of course, he may find it a little tough being accepted back in to the conspiracy theory community; after all, "They" let him go free when they could have put him in one of their FEMA death camps.

I reserve the right to change to change my mind about this.

Truther Draws 8% of Vote in NJ Dem Guv Primary

Not a record, by any means, but about 80 times better on a percentage-wise basis than Cynthia McKinney.

What amazes me, though, is that this guy did it without any organized support from the 9-11 goof movement. Granted, it's against Corzine, who makes Cheney look popular by comparison, but why didn't the fruitcakes support him?

In an attempt to send a message, nearly one out of four Democrats who voted in Tuesday's Democratic primary (23%) did not vote for the incumbent Governor, Jon Corzine. None of Corzine's three primary opponents, former Glen Ridge Mayor Carl Bergmanson (9%), 9/11 conspiracy theorist Jeff Boss (8%) and factory worker Roger Bacon (6%) spent more than couple of thousand dollars and had no organizational or interest group endorsements.

Perhaps because for once they were saner than the guy carrying their banner.

I HAVE VIDEO OF 4 NSA AGENTS ADMITTING ON TAPE THAT THEY WORK FOR THE NSA TO MESS UP MY CAMPAIGN AND HELP THE NSA COVER UP THE NSA ARRANGING THE 911 ATTACK. EVERY TIME I POST THE VIDEOS THEY ARE EDITED OUT. EVEN ON YOU TUBE. EVERY TIME I AM ON TV OR RADIO AND I TALK ABOUT THE 911 ATTACK OR SHOW THE VIDEOS IT IS EDITED OUT. THE STAR LEDGER AND RECORD REFUSED TO RUN MY PAID FOR POLITICAL ADS. WHEN I WAS ON WPAT , THE RADIO STATION BROADCAST THE EMERGENCY BROADCAST SYSTEM FOR 10 MINUTES OVER MY INTERVIEW.

On the other hand, maybe Boss was fortunate that the idiots didn't support him like they did Steve Alten last year.

More Questions for Luke

From Louie B, a We Are Change member:

Since Lukasz was able to raise $4k for the legal defense fund. I had to find this a website that had the wearechange NY legal defense fund chip-in widget on another website cause again Luke is trying to cover his tracks. why does he have a legal aide lawyer? What has he done with money he raised for a lawyer? WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO STOP THE HERO WORSHIP AND REALLY WONDER WHY WE ARE ASKING THESE QUESTIONS!! HERE IS YOUR PROOF 9/11 SHEEPLE.

I suspect that Luke is going to find out the truth of the old adage: You get what you pay for.

Another Tie Between Von Brunn & Truthers

Turns out, he was a fan of Eric May's fruitcake site:

In an interview Friday, May said that von Brunn corresponded with him from 2006 to 2009, and distributed May's writings to others. But von Brunn was not a Ghost Troop member, May said.

"I came to regard him as one of my readers and critics," May said. "I believe he was an eccentric and brilliant man. I thought he was bigoted. We shared many views, but his view [on race] is not one of them."

May said he was initially surprised by von Brunn's alleged involvement in the museum shooting, saying that von Brunn "never threatened direct action, although he sometimes commented or made allusions to how there needs to be an uprising."

Blame It On the Jews....

It's seldom that somebody does that straightforward; usually we hear about the Zionists or the Israelis, so it's somewhat refreshing to see someone who's so honest about his/her anti-Semitism:

Odigo has a feature on its service that allows the passing on of messages through a search feature based on nationality, such as Israeli. Knowing these two particular Jews were forewared, it is very likely they passed the message on to other Jews considering that out of the 4000 Israeli Jews believed to work in the trade towers, only ONE died that day.

The New Fascism

Nick Cohen of the (UK) Guardian:

Yet for all his roots in neo-Nazism, von Brunn was also a transitional figure who typified a wider range of forces than I can adequately squeeze into the "far right" label. He was an enthusiastic "truther", who went on the net to deny that the al-Qaida attacks on New York and Washington had surprised the conspirators in power who secretly controlled America. He hated Bill O'Reilly of Fox News and neocons as much as the New York Times and Obama. "It doesn't matter that you despise Jews-neocons-Bill O'Reilly," he declared in one of his incoherent internet postings. "You pay the kosher tax - or else you don't eat."

As he points out, the far left and the far right are meeting (and greeting) each other, espousing a new kind of fascism for the 21st century:

In Voodoo Histories, his elegant evisceration of the paranoid mentality, David Aaronovitch points out that former fascists and communists, secular Ba'athists, radical Islamists, Russian nationalists and America firsters - people who would never have worked together in the past, and who indeed killed each other in the past - are fusing ideas and creating a new ideology. Their politics, he writes, is "a loose coalescence of impulses: anti-globalisation, broadly anti-modernist and anti-imperialist - with imperialism being inevitably and solely associated with American power".

I think that's right on the money, which is one reason why I have rejected the idea that Troofers are solely creatures of the far left. Dylan Avery may be a traditional liberal, but Jason Bermas and Alex Jones and Luke Rudkowski plainly are not.

Hat Tip: Patrick from Cincinnati (in the comments).

Even The Birthers Look Down on the Truthers

Larry Johnson, whose site No Quarter was a major hub for the Obama Birther nonsense during the election campaign (I don't know if they've kept flogging that dead horse), comes out forthrightly against the 9-11 Troofers.

Here’s the basic problem with Gage–he has zero experience with actually doing controlled demolitions. People like Gage do not understand that a controlled demolition is the result of weeks of work, lots of detonation cord (aka DetCord) and visible explosives. You cannot hide the preparation required to do a controlled demolition.

Also, let’s ignore the challenge of prewiring three massive buildings–WTC 1, WTC 2 and WTC 7. Plus you have to place the explosives in the towers in two different precise locations so that the demolitions start at the points where the planes struck the towers. Let’s not forget we need the hijackers to cooperate and hit their “marks”. You can’t have the pilot of the plane that hits the North Tower hitting the 50th floor when you have place the explosives around the 70th.

More from Johnson here.

Martial Law for Dummies

(Some profanity, NSFW).

Great job, Unsecured Coins! The images, the fast-talking, it all comes together perfectly. Get your acceptance speech ready for the Oscars!

New Debunking Site Noted

Light on comment, but lots of links to the terrific BBC and History Channel documentaries and similar resources. Watch the WTC-7 BBC video again; it still grabs me.

Update: Don't forget Walter's terrific video site as well.

9-11 Was a Rick Astley Job!

Somebody was at a Zeitgeist Movie showing and had a great deal of fun spoofing the Troofers. Great job!

Troofer Plans to Sue Glenn Beck

Don't expect this case to get much past the initial filing:

Specifically, Greg Hoover will be suing the above-described defendants in Federal Court for Beck’s having repeatedly broadcast statements characterizing those who question the government’s official version of the events of 9/11 as, "anarchists," "terrorists" and as persons denying the Holocaust.

The complaint will note that - on October 22, 2007 - Beck suggested that those identifying themselves as associated with the 9/11 truth movement are "dangerous" "anarchists" who deny the Holocaust, and are "the kind of group that Timothy McVeigh would come from."

Relatively non-controversial statements there, but apparently Mr Hoover (whom I have never heard of before) feels his reputation has been defamed.

Update: More lawsuit threats (and loads of profanity) in this call between Troy and Derek Johnson of Gage's Gaggle of Geese:



Note that Johnson, like almost all Troofers, has "interesting facial hair". What's up with that?

Bentham Journals Get Punk'd! Again.

LOL, remember all the pride that the kooks expressed when Jones and Harrit, et. al., got their paper published in the "peer-reviewed Bentham Open Journals?" Well, turns out that's not the only BS paper published at that venue:

Earlier this year, Davis started receiving unsolicited emails from Bentham Science Publishers, which publishes more than 200 "open-access" journals – which turn the conventional business model of academic publishing on its head by charging publication fees to the authors of research papers, and then making the content available for free.

As the emails stacked up, Davis was not only encouraged to submit papers, but was also invited to serve on the editorial board of some of Bentham's journals – for which he was told he would be allowed to publish one free article each year. "I received solicitations for journals for which I had no subject expertise at all," says Davis. "It really painted a picture of vanity publishing."

Oh, but it gets better, much better. After creating their paper with a computer program that generates nutty stuff:

Davis and Anderson, writing under the noms de plume David Phillips and Andrew Kent, also dropped a hefty hint of the hoax by giving their institutional affiliation as the Center for Research in Applied Phrenology, or CRAP.

Yet four months after the article was submitted, "David Phillips" received an email from Sana Mokarram, Bentham's assistant manager of publication:

This is to inform you that your submitted article has been accepted for publication after peer-reviewing process in TOISCIJ. I would be highly grateful to you if you please fill and sign the attached fee form and covering letter and send them back via email as soon as possible to avoid further delay in publication.

The publication fee was $800, to be sent to a PO Box in the United Arab Emirates.

Of course, those of us who've been paying attention know that the Bentham Journals got punk'd the first time when they published the ridiculous paper by Harrit, Jones, Ryan and Szamboti.

Hats off to Philip Meir Davis and Kent Anderson, who pulled off the hoax. Here's a sample of the computer-generated nonsense:

In this section, we discuss existing research into red-black trees, vacuum tubes, and courseware [10]. On a similar note, recent work by Takahashi suggests a methodology for providing robust modalities, but does not offer an implementation [9].

It makes more sense than what Jones and Harrit published.

Hat tip for this excellent find to alienentity at JREF, who points us to this post by Volatile, also at JREF.

Update: More discussion here. Turns out that the footnotes have some hilarity in them, including a 2005 article by Alan Turing and Timothy Leary (both dead by that point--Turing had been dead for 50 years), and Noam Chomsky's work on vacuum tubes and voice over IP protocols.

Davis posts here.

What is surprising is that the assistant manager claimed that the article went through peer-review although there is no evidence that it actually did. Anyone with English proficiency — with or without a degree in computer science — would recognize that this manuscript makes absolutely no sense.

Remember Jones claiming that this was the most rigorous peer review he'd ever undergone? I'm certainly hoping that's not true.

Update: Fallout from the incident:

Bambang Parmanto, a University of Pittsburgh information scientist, resigned from his editorship at The Open Information Science Journal (TOISCIJ) after reading a story on The Scientist's website yesterday (June 10) that described a hoax paper submission to the journal. Editors at journal claimed to have peer reviewed the article and slated it for publication pending the submission of $800 in "open access fees."

"I didn't like what happened," Parmanto told The Scientist. "If this is true, I don't have full control of the content that is accepted to this journal." Parmanto said that he had never seen the phony manuscript that was accepted by TOISCIJ. "I want to lessen my exposure to the risk of being taken advantage of."

You may recall that the editor of the Journal that published Harrit and Jones' paper also resigned immediately after that paper was accepted.

By the way, Parmanto may have to wait for awhile for his name to be removed from the masthead; check out the first comment here:

Well done! I have had my doubts about that journal for quite some time. Actually, I have long ago withdrawn from the so-called editorial board because I felt something was wrong. I am actually a bit shocked to find out that my name still figures on the list!!

Clueless

The troofers are going absolutely apoplectic over being associated with the Holocaust museum shooter, with far more comments being posted than usual. Lately it has been pretty dead on the truther sites admittedly. My favorite comment has to be this one on 911 Blogger, which is a letter to Glenn Beck. It starts:

I just finished viewing your segment on the holocaust shooting and the attempt to link the suspect to the 9/11 Truth Movement. Quite frankly I was shocked and appalled at the actions this individual took. I've also combed many blogs in order to determine if this man was even in the 9/11 Truth Movement. I have found no evidence as such.

The commenter then adds later (emphasis mine):

The following site categorizes over 2000 high profile Politicians, Engineers and Architects, Pilots and Aviation Professionals, Surviviors [sic] and Family Members, Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials, Professors,and others. Please have your team of crack producers and researchers read and review the following website http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/. These are the true heroes of the 9/11 Truth Movment [sic], not James W. Von Braun.

Other groups include the following:
Architects and Engineers Petition for a New 9/11 Investigation
Firefighters for 9/11 Truth Petition
Lawyers for 9/11 Truth
Medical Professionals for 9/11 Truth
Petition for a New 9/11 Investigation
Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth
Petition for a New 9/11 Investigation
War Is Illegal Petition
New York City Ballot Initiative for a New 9/11 Investigation
9/11: Breaking the Wall of Silence (11 Settembre 2001: Rompere il muro del silenzio)
Demand that the Canadian Government Investigate 9/11

Prominent Americans and 9/11 Family Members for a New 9/11 Investigation
Petition for the Release of CIA Documents Pertaining to 9/11
Petition For An Independent International Truth Commission On 9/11
Justice for 9/11 Petition for a New 9/11 Investigation
Citizens Request for the FBI to Review 9-11 Scholars Petition for Release of 9/11 Information

Hello, you just listed the resource where people found out he was a truther, as part of your argument that he doesn't represent the real truthers.

Beck: Truthers Working to Destroy America

Wow. I'm in the middle on this one. Beck has ticked me off in the past, but I absolutely agree with him that the Truthers are getting to the dangerous subculture point. On the other hand, I have seen no indication that von Brunn is some sort of hero to the Troofers; I cover these folks on a daily basis and I never heard of the guy before today. There may be some praise out there for him on Infowars that I don't know about, so I won't call foul.

Yet Another Researcher

This was taking place at an impromptu memorial where the Marines (correction, Army) recruiter was shot a week or so ago. Watch through to the end; she's a freaking Alex Jones fan jihadi. Note also the part about how "Jooos" own the New York Times.

Holocaust Museum Shooter Was 9-11 Truther

Well, well, scratch a 9-11 Truther and find a Holocaust Denier, yet again.

Authorities have confirmed that James W Von Brunn, a known anti-Semite who has published works concerning Adolf Hitler, the Third Reich and white supremacy was the gunman who entered Washington D.C.’s Holocaust Museum on Wednesday and shot a security guard before being shot himself.

Check out signer #9196 on the Justice for 9-11 Petition.

9196. James W. von Brunn, Maryland, USA

Note that the signers are up to 16,000, so it's not like one of us debunkers went in and added his name to the petition to make the Troofers look bad.

And in keeping with our notion that if you're stupid enough to fall for one conspiracy theory, you'll probably fall for another, von Brunn was also an Obama "Birther".

Hat Tip: JREFer sylvan8798.

Update: No surprise, he was a big fan of Infowars:

# JAMES VON BRUNN Says:
March 7th, 2008 at 10:35 am

Yours is an excellent site. Thanks for your efforts.
KEEP FIGHTING!

I HAVE WRITTEN A MOVIE-SCRIPT SET DURING U.S. CIVIL WAR. MANY PROBLEMS CHALLENGING THE SOUTH HAVE PARALLELS TODAY. PLS. PUT ME IN CONTACT WITH A MOVIE PRODUCER-DIRECTOR OF MEL GIBSON’S PROFESSIONALISM. WE ALL WILL PROFIT
JVB

The security guard has died. That makes five people murdered by 9-11 "Truthers" in the last year, and six people murdered by cretins that frequented Infowars.

WACLA Fruitcakes Nearly Get Tased

Some real bits of hilarity in this one as they confront Richard Myers. Jeremy goes nuts with the "Is this America?" crap; of course in his fevered fantasies this is exactly what America is, where he gets kicked out of an event for exercising his right to free speech (really his non-existent right to disrupt an event). In fact, in his fantasy world, he'd be heading for the FEMA concentration camps two hours after the event, not chuckling about it with Bruno.

Portland Troof Alliance Invites America-Hating Holocaust Denier to Speak

Why do they always have to make it so easy for us? The Portland "Truth" Alliance is sponsoring a program on the Frankfurt School of Cultural Marxism, which sounds dull as dishwater, so they decided to spice things up with an introductory lecture by Valdas Analauskas. Who?

It turns out that Valdas is a former Soviet and current American dissident, which makes him another one of those Troofers who came to the US so he could criticize it, like Luke Rudkowski, like Gypsy Taub, and several others whose names escape me at the moment. But that turns out to be one of Valdas' better qualities. He dedicated a speech he gave at the University of Oregon in 2006 to Holocaust Denier Germar Rudolf. That speech was sponsored by the Pacifica Forum, which has also hosted the dolts at the Institute for Historical Review. Here's a letter to the editor he wrote just last year:

In his rather hysterical June 20 letter, Bob Bussel decries any questioning of Holocaust history as a "profound act of intellectual fraud and moral bankruptcy," a "loathsome and repugnant REPUGNANT. That which is contrary to something else; a repugnant condition is one contrary to the contract itself; as, if I grant you a house and lot in fee, upon condition that you shall not aliens, the condition is repugnant and void. Bac. Ab. Conditions, L. monstrosity monstrosity

1. great congenital deformity.

2. a monster or teratism. ."

British writer George Orwell Noun 1. George Orwell - imaginative British writer concerned with social justice (1903-1950)
Eric Arthur Blair, Eric Blair, Orwell
..... Click the link for more information. said that "who controls the past, controls the future," and our perception of past events alsoshapes the way we look at the world around us today. The Zionists understand this, and know that the story of the Holocaust is crucial to their power.

This is why such harsh measures are being exacted against those who ask too many questions. The Holocaust history seems so shaky that governments have to actually imprison im·pris·on
tr.v. im·pris·oned, im·pris·on·ing, im·pris·ons
To put in or as if in prison; confine.


[Middle English emprisonen, from Old French emprisoner : en-
..... Click the link for more information. people who openly question it.

Today, it's becoming more like the new state religion and, as in the Inquisition, people are being locked up again for questioning even the smallest detail of dogma - no matter what the evidence, no matter what the conflicting testimony or history. Anyone who breaches this faith will be deemed a "Holocaust denier de·ni·er 1
n.
One that denies: a denier of harsh realities.

denier
Noun ," and punished accordingly.

Therefore, as I see it, the "standard" version of the Holocaust history simply cannot be trusted as long as they're jailing or otherwise punishing those who question it. To make jail sentences be your response to critics is exactly the same as getting up on a rooftop and shouting as loud as you can for all to hear: "I am lying!" Is anyone supposed to believe someone who, in effect, proclaims in this way that he's lying?

VALDAS ANELAUSKAS

Remember, these are the kinds of folks that 9-11 "Truthers" choose to associate themselves with.

Alex Jones Fan Threatens Cops, Locked Up

What a shock:

After reading a newspaper article on infowars.com that described how a 17-year-old boy died after being shocked with a Taser by a Martinsville police officer in January, Weaver wrote: "this makes my blood boil."

"Maybe I should drive to Martinsville with my 9mm Glock and some Teflon coated armor-piercing Black Rhino hollow point rounds and do the world a favor by ridding the world of this piece of s--- pig," the message read.

Authorities traced the post to Weaver's Internet protocol address, which they say was used several days earlier to make even more menacing comments about the fatal shooting of an unarmed man by police officers on a train platform in Oakland.

Note the "authorities traced the post" part? Care to guess how they traced his IP address? Freedom Haters looked into it and found out that resisting the NWO only goes so far at Alex Jones enterprises.

Of course, the cops may be a little paranoid right now about Alex Jones fans.

Hat tip: Troy in the comments.

Gage No Longer A Full-Time Architect...

Just a full-time kook:

This is how we keep our doors open and pay our operating expenses. All non-profits work this way. No one is getting rich over here. (I, Richard Gage, am the only salaried employee and I receive only about half of my former pay as an architect. Everyone here is sacrificing – on a grand scale to bring the truth about 9/11).

Gee, remember how initially Gage used to describe his experience at designing "steel-framed gymnasiums" and when we laughed at that, he began talking about this high-rise project in Vegas that he was working on that was going to have 1.2 million square feet? Sounds like Box Boy is never going to get that experience credit for that deal.

What's The Only Group the Commies Can Look Down on In Chicago?

You guessed it, the 9-11 Troofers. Check out the part about 2:50 in:

"We tried to interview the communists, we're going to try to get their take on stuff, we're not trying to be confrontational, we just want to talk to these communists and get their take on Karl Rove, because, you know, we agree with them 53, 54, 55 percent of what they're saying. Karl Rove is a complete criminal. So we're trying to talk to these communists but they have obviously recognized Sayeed from other past events and will not talk to them."

Patting Your Own Back

I haven't been doing much blogging yet, since I recently started a new job, which although financially beneficial has taken up much of my time and energy, but I have been following this whole thing about a PBS station in Colorado broadcasting the pseudo-LIHOP documentary 9/11 Press For Truth.

Now it appears that Jon Gold is all excited by this "breakthrough" and is hilariously bragging about the "tremendous amount of praise" that the station received as a result.

As most of you know, Colorado 9-11 Visibility and KBDI 12 recently showed 9/11: Press For Truth, and it was HUGELY successful. KBDI received a tremendous amount of praise for showing this important documentary.

He includes a link to this "tremendous amount of praise" which to no surprise, are mostly anonymous comments, apparently from the KBDI website. Just look through the comments that do have names though, and you will notice such people as Richard Curtis, from the Scholars for 9/11 Truth, who is also hosting the Richard Gage speech in Seattle later this month, Harold Saive from Florida, a frequent poster on 9/11 Blogger, and Crystal Urbanski, a 9/11 nutter from Boston. I seriously doubt that any of them are frequent viewers of PBS stations in Colorado.

Actually, given the fact that this received extensive promotion on all the major truther sites, including linking to the station's website, the fact that it only received 45 comments, is pretty pathetic. So in a country of 300 million people, they are praising themselves for managing to get a couple of dozen of their own people to make a comment on a website.

Paranoid Alex

Oh, my, that is hilarious. I especially like Luke's comment, "He has sort of like a charisma, he has, uh, a very loud voice."

Great job, Walter!

Praire Weather Flirts with "Trutherism"

The Obama Administration is talking about letting KSM and the other four 9-11 plotters to plead guilty to a military commission, without a trial. The idea (which will require a change in the law) is apparently being driven by a desire by the administration not to have the interrogation techniques used to come out at the trial.

Some liberal bloggers are outraged:

We refuse to prosecute unless we can get a guilty verdict, and therefore are weighing just keeping them imprisoned for life; I’m not sure how Obama plans doing that considering the Supreme Court rulings, but whatever. They are now suggesting that maybe they should let the accused plead guilty, so they can be put to death without a trial and not worry about it.

I'm not going to criticize them for this as it's too close to politics. Same with this beginning at Prairie Weather, a major liberal blog:

The administration is proposing a "solution" at Guantanamo which will punish some alleged 9/11 murderers without full justice even as it lets other perpetrators of heinous crimes -- Bush administration interrogators -- go untouched.

That's politics, and it's not our bailiwick. However, this nonsense is:

Does this remind anyone else of scuttling the physical evidence of the 9/11 attacks? Remember: most of the steel wreckage was cut and melted down within three months of the attacks and shipped to a steel plant in China.

It's true that most of the steel wreckage was shipped to China, but only after being examined by investigators and structural engineers at the Fresh Kills Landfill:

Most of the recyclable metal at ground zero is being sent to the Fresh Kills Landfill on Staten Island where law enforcement authorities survey the material for evidence. Only then is it released to a scrap processor under an existing long-term contract with the New York City Department of Sanitation to purchase and then recycle scrap metal.

In fact, I remember seeing a picture of some steel beams at Fresh Kills that had been spray painted with the word "Keep". Correction: "Save":



Hat Tip: dwlan in the comments.

KBDI Gets a Black Eye

The Troofers are crowing about Press For Truth getting repeat showings today on KBDI, the dumbest PBS station in America, but somebody in Aurora (a Denver suburb) noticed and called them on it.

Just two days later, KDBI – public broadcasting in Boulder, CO ran a fundraiser during prime time featuring a video entitled, 9/11 Press For Truth, which presents a completely one-sided screed against the Bush Administration, claiming that (it) knew the 9/11 attacks were coming and did nothing to prevent them. The program neglects to interview any senior Bush White House personnel or to even mention the relevant intelligence that was made available to the Clinton Administration.

Executive Producer Kyle Hence, Director Ray Nowosielski, and family member Bob McIlvaine – who lost his son Bobby in the attacks on New York – were in the KBDI studios and extolled their film throughout the evening. Additionally, volunteers from Colorado 911 Visibility were on hand to answer phones, although they appeared without their trademark tin foil hats.

Hat Tip: ConsDemo (in the comments).

If This Guy Isn't Kidding...

He's on the short list for dumbest "Truther" ever:



The midi version of "Burning Down the House" kinda makes me think it could be a gag, but the guy's favorited a bunch of Richard Gage videos, which makes me think he's legitimately this stupid.

Hat tip: dwlan in the comments.

Nuttiest Troofer Diary Ever

Over at Kos, from a user named Heckler who is apparently awaiting the ban hammer.

What's most remarkable about the post is the purple prose suffusing every paragraph. One of the commenters accused him of mixing his metaphors; I'd say it's more like he put them in a blender set to frappe.

Let us give praise: with a few picayune exceptions, every skeleton in our internal National Security empire is dragged out into the disinfecting glare of a summer day in Death Valley. Our congressional investigations are, by and large, enviable forays of forensic rigor and infallibility. We may falter and stumble, but in the Invisible Hand we trust to right the ship in all storms.... as long as our faith is sure and we stifle all doubt. All our current problems ensue, really, from a surfeit of the white man’s burden: Democracy and uplifting Capitalism are threatened by global epidemics of insurgency and virulent socialism that could, if not checked by our stalwart sacrifice, plunge the nation, or even the planet, into a great depression!

He takes awhile to get into the 9-11 Trooferism, but once he does, it's the usual crap. Mineta's testimony indicates a standdown; the FBI says it doesn't have any evidence tying Osama to 9-11, fire can't melt steel, etc. In the grand tradition of conspiracy nuts he also pulls in a little bit of other CTs, like the JFK assassination (pulled off by E. Howard Hunt, we are assured). Even Smedley Butler gets quoted.

Obama: Al Qaeda Responsible for 9-11

It's just a tiny part of his speech in Cairo, but appreciated nevertheless:

The situation in Afghanistan demonstrates America's goals, and our need to work together. Over seven years ago, the United States pursued al Qaeda and the Taliban with broad international support. We did not go by choice, we went because of necessity. I am aware that some question or justify the events of 9/11. But let us be clear: al Qaeda killed nearly 3,000 people on that day. The victims were innocent men, women and children from America and many other nations who had done nothing to harm anybody. And yet Al Qaeda chose to ruthlessly murder these people, claimed credit for the attack, and even now states their determination to kill on a massive scale. They have affiliates in many countries and are trying to expand their reach. These are not opinions to be debated; these are facts to be dealt with.

One of These Things Is Not Like the Other....

Just happened to be surfing through Wikipedia this morning and saw their piece on Proponents of 9-11 Conspiracy Theories.

For the most part, the names are what you'd expect; Dylan Avery, David Ray Griffin, Alex Jones, Richard Gage etc. But one name did catch me by surprise:

Mike Williams (freelance writer)

Of course, they are referring to top-notch debunker Mike W of 9-11 Myths, as you can see when you click the link to his Wikipedia page. I know the people at Wikipedia have been battling the conspiracy theorists for awhile, but this one seems to have slipped by them.

Rick Siegel Files Suit Against Sofia Shafquat

Well, well, this one's been a long time coming, but it is a welcome development nonetheless that requires some explanation.

Rick Siegel filmed video of the collapses of the Twin Towers on 9-11 from across the Hudson in Hoboken, New Jersey. His footage is compelling and he had on his radio tuned to 1010 WINS (NY news radio station) at the same time to provide a soundtrack. The effect, quite plainly is a historical document of some significance.

Siegel's footage was used in the crackpot film 9-11 Eyewitness, apparently with permission and a rights' fee, although Siegel reportedly was not pleased with the final product. In late 2006, Sofia Shafquat released 9-11 Mysteries: Demolitions, which borrowed chunks of Siegel's footage apparently without permission or a rights' fee. Worse, Siegel discovered that Shaquat had edited his footage, erasing sounds and adding her own background noises (explosions, most egregiously) in places. And of course there was the ridiculous mistake that Sofia made where she shows the "South Tower record" (times of supposed explosions just before the collapse), and then says "Then the building fell," and she shows the North Tower collapse.

There was a flurry of activity in 2007, and Siegel bumped 9-11 Mysteries off Google Video and YouTube for awhile for copyright infringement, while John Albanese managed to push Siegel's website offline for awhile. The dustup even reached the MSM, with the NY Post covering some of the antics on both sides.

Siegel himself is something of an enigma; IIRC he claims not to be a Truther himself but at the same time, he provided websites for the no-planer contingent, at least one of which is still standing (although it's basically a ghost town, with the last post in May of 2008).

I hadn't heard anything about this story in a long time, and given that 9-11 Mysteries and Sofia have pretty much vanished into the mists, I didn't expect any new developments. But apparently Siegel has gone ahead with his lawsuit.

Tell Us What You Really Think

A bunch of TruthMove activists discuss New World Order, the current IFC movie on Alex Jones, Luke Rudkowski and several other "Truthers".

John Albanese:

9/11 urban legends (like missing planes at the Pentagon) are presented as articles of faith - a fundamentalist belief system - on the fringe of society and the product of a disenfranchised populous.

And of course we have Luke - the sincere but 'not too bright' kid from New York mouthing the dogma of Alex Jones in front of a refrigerator decorated with Loose Change decals - and printing up hundreds of thousands of flyers to pass out on the street. The overarching "feel" of the film is almost one of pity as it explores the self-importance of these people who appear to be silly victims of their own beliefs.

TruthMover:

Luke under AJ's wing has done more harm than any MSM pundit, infiltrator, or debunker! They totally subverted any organic representation of 9/11 truth, replacing that possibility with dumb conspiracy fanaticism.

Luke is an illiterate turd who is easily manipulated and shouldn't be in charge of anything. The 'truth squad' confrontations have done more harm than good. Most of the people attracted to WAC are dim witted wing nuts who don't know the first thing about how to determine what it true and not. The organization has become Alex Jones' personal activist army, as easily dismisses as him.

And:

WAC is totally subverting the 9/11 truth movement. My anger is based on caring about the movement and knowing I'm right. And also the fact that the people I'm talking about are exactly those that I can't reason with. The best thing we could do is to break away from all that and start a coalition of 9/11 truth activists who refute any connection to right wing paranoid bullsh*t.

But that's not going to happen. Quantity vs quality is too alluring, even for the discerning among us. And most of us are too unwilling to insult a peer in the interest of global justice. Weakness.

Hillary's Replacement Supports New Investigation

Note that Manny as usual can't just ask his question, he has to prep Senator Gillibrand beforehand. I'm inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt on her answer; she was (until Hillary became Secretary of State) an upstate congresswoman. I don't think she's gotten a lot of exposure to the Troofers. We'll see if she does anything with the Harrit paper.